End of season pike fishing trip on the Avon

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After being office bound all week and looking forward to the break in the weather this weekend it was going to be my last opportunity to get out on my local river before the annual river fishing season came to an end. Due to meet Nick and Byron at Saltford weir on the river Avon near bath at 0630 it appeared we were eager with anticipation all arriving on the bank early. Kitted up and ready to launch at 0600, it was a frosty morning with clear skies and a light breeze. We had timed it well with the sun breaking the horizon as we launched our first kayak. With no heavy rainfall for over a week the river was running at a slow steady pace, allowing us to make good progress upstream and reach Saltford Weir before the sun had fully risen. Widened to allow for its lock gates and boat mooring Saltford Weir is twice the width of the main river channel allowing sufficient room for all three kayaks to be anchored without impeding each-others casting range.

With conditions perfect and expectations high the first cast of our lures were made. With impeccable timing as soon as the first lure hit the water the sky clouded over and the first drop of rain fell. Undeterred we fished on as the rain grew heavier and the winds began to pick up. During the first hour Byron hooked into a small fish in the slack water close to the lock gates, which was lost after a short fight.
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Fishing the main channel in front of the weir the closest Nick and I got to a hit was when a large tree trunk came over the weir and struck the back of our kayaks. Luckily the Channel Kayaks Bass and Pro kayaks we were using were able to take the weight of the trunk until I was able to untangle it from our anchor ropes, if I had been using my old glass fiber kayak I think I’d have been swimming for the bank, time for a move.

Moving away from the weir towards the narrowing river channel, the flow increased noticeably, assisted by the run off from the heavy down pour we were experiencing. Drifting downstream we used small 0.75kg grappling anchors on a short rope to trip the bottom and slow our drift. Using weed free rubber lures Byron had the advantage over the rest of us and it wasn’t long before he was into another small pike which was quickly unhooked and released at the side of the kayak.
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It wasn’t long before we had drifted back to our launch point the rain was pouring and a bitterly cold wind howling. At this point a sensible angler would call it a day. As Byron and Nick paddled to the side and abandoned their kayaks on the bank to take shelter in the car I anchored close to the bank opposite our launch point. Having fished from kayaks for the past six years and never blanked I was determined to have one last cast. During the next sixty minutes I had many last casts, cold and shivering my Gul winter wetsuit was no match for the cold winds, I was starting to think that it was a poor decision to leave my Gul touring dry cag at home. A highly technical windproof cag it may be but it wasn’t going to keep me warm 20 miles away hanging in my garage. Maybe the thought of fishing on was another poor decision?

After a very long difficult hour the cloud finally broke and the sun began to shine through. A quick dry of my face and hair with the towel from my dry bag and I was feeling a little better. With the lads now stood on the side of the bank signalling for me to come in (I had promised them lunch in a nearby pub) it really was time for my last few casts. With the water now a little coloured I changed from Yo Zuri minnow to a good old fashioned Shakespeare big S in a perch pattern fitted with smaller size twelve barbless trebles to reduce weed pickup. First cast resulted in a plastic bag which was placed in the rear of the kayak to be disposed of later. Second cast was a long cast down-stream and slow retrieve using the current to push the big S down. Within moments of starting my retrieve I felt something hit my lure and immediately drop it. Gutted that I had missed my only take, I put it down to the smaller trebles and so increased my retrieve rate intent on packing up. Within metres of reaching the kayak I had another hit and this time I was in. Using the current to its advantage the fish stayed low and made two good runs down stream. After a good fight the fish finally came to the surface and slipped into the net. It was no trout reservoir monster but at 9lb.10oz it was a good healthy river pike. After a quick picture for the camera it was released back into the water to go spawn the next generation.

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All packed up and cleaned down it was off to the Riverside pub in Saltford for lunch and an opportunity to plan our next few trips. As one season comes to an end another will always be starting with many trout waters opening their doors earlier this month and for those looking to venture out to sea, black bream move into inshore waters as the weather warms around the end of April which signals the start of many summer species returning to our coastlines. There are opportunities to fish from your kayak throughout the year as long as you plan wisely. Follow our blog throughout the summer as we target black bream with Andy Smith from total sea fishing magazine, as well as fly fishing for trout and even carp fishing from a kayak.


Tight lines and sorry for the late report - had to go on a family holiday the day after this trip

Lee
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Thanks, I really enjoyed reading that. I have family in Bath. Their back garden literally ends at the Avon. I might have to pay them a visit in the Autumn :)

I really enjoyed your writing style, by the way.
 

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thanks for the reply. Barbel and Chub fishing is great on the Avon in the Autumn around the saltford flats, if you want to gave a go for the pike head for the weir next to the Salthouse Pub.
 

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Nice read, I will have to try over that way, seems like one of the few venues the EE's haven't emptied.
 

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Is the "EE" problem really that bad? I can imagine Farage pike fishing and blaming every blank on Immigration. :(
 
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Is the "EE" problem really that bad? I can imagine Farage pike fishing and blaming every blank on Immigration. :(

I'm afraid that around here, and doubtless many other places, it is.

Set multi-hook lines hammered into the bank with distressed and dead fish attached at then end, abandoned netting when they've scarpered during an after dark approach and discarded Polish beer cans beside the waters edge of every free (or not!) water in the area... I know because I've cleared 'em up.

There are many genuine, thoughtful, caring and law abiding EE anglers but unfortunately the problem seems also to be dominated by their fellow countrymen.

It's not limited to fish either, add waterfowl including swans.
 

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Is the "EE" problem really that bad? I can imagine Farage pike fishing and blaming every blank on Immigration. :(

I can only speak for my local rivers, there has been a tremendous amount of illegal fishing, some venues have really suffered. One particular venue around 20 miles away, a few years ago you could almost guarantee at least a couple of pike and half a dozen zander, especially on lures at night. Fishing got gradually worse, people were fishing in the close season and taking everything they caught. I stopped fishing it around 5 years ago but I have heard now you would be lucky to catch a single fish.
 

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I do sometimes wonder if a couple of genuine incidents get reported, and spread on the grapevine. Then after that any decline in catch rates (for whatever reason) get widely blamed on "eastern europeans deadlining for the pot", because people really feel comfortable blaming a different group of people for everything around them that they don't like.

That's one possibility. Another is that it really is happening enough to be the cause of declining pike.

I would like to see the situation scientifically analysed before I jump on any bandwagon.

---------- Post added at 15:44 ---------- Previous post was at 15:38 ----------

By the way, I only returned to fishing in February after a 31 year gap, so I do not know what's been happening over the last few years. I am speaking almost as a bystander. But I still need solid facts rather than hearsay.
 

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I do sometimes wonder if a couple of genuine incidents get reported, and spread on the grapevine. Then after that any decline in catch rates (for whatever reason) get widely blamed on "eastern europeans deadlining for the pot", because people really feel comfortable blaming a different group of people for everything around them that they don't like.

That's one possibility. Another is that it really is happening enough to be the cause of declining pike.

I would like to see the situation scientifically analysed before I jump on any bandwagon.

---------- Post added at 15:44 ---------- Previous post was at 15:38 ----------

By the way, I only returned to fishing in February after a 31 year gap, so I do not know what's been happening over the last few years. I am speaking almost as a bystander. But I still need solid facts rather than hearsay.

Sorry but you are way off the mark. It's not just 'a couple of genuine incidents'. I'm not sure what part of the country you live in, maybe there isn't a problem, as I said I can only speak about my part of the country and I am going on actual experience and not just something that's 'spread on the grapevine' as you put it. Numerous times the Environment Agency have failed to take any action against illegal fishing, when EE's are involved they don't seem to want to know. I'm sure many anglers will tell you, indeed Mick Brown for one has written about this problem, that's one of the reasons he no longer fishes the rivers and drains locally. Before you say the decline in fishing is due to otters, cormorants, seals or jack the ripper, it isn't. It is what it is.
 

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I wasn't saying you're wrong, just that I need evidence to believe it.
 

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If you have been away for 31 years I guess you wouldn't have seen any, a lot has changed in 31 years!

I still need to see evidence, rather than just read a stranger saying it on a fishing forum. Can you point me to some?
 

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I still need to see evidence, rather than just read a stranger saying it on a fishing forum. Can you point me to some?

Do some research on the internet, there is plenty written about it by people who have witnessed it but as they are all strangers I doubt you would believe any of it anyway. How could I point you to some evidence when it would have already happened. Go on the internet and Google 'Eastern European illegal fishing'. If you still don't think there has been, or is a problem, then that's fine. I was just giving my personal experiences as was the other guy that posted. I find it slightly strange that you are asking for advice on tackle from 'strangers' but hey ho happy days.
 
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Why is it strange to ask for advice on tackle from strangers? I thought that's what this place was for, among other things. Nothing political involved in tackle advice.
 

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Why is it strange to ask for advice on tackle from strangers? I thought that's what this place was for, among other things. Nothing political involved in tackle advice.

Yes it is for sure, but on one hand you weren't prepared to accept why I or the other poster said because we were 'strangers' yet you are willing to spend your money on recommendations from strangers?
Why mention the word 'political'? I can see where you are trying to steer this but i'm not biting mate.
If you think i'm exaggerating or all the info on the subject is wrong then good for you.
Tight lines.
 

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Yes it is for sure, but on one hand you weren't prepared to accept why I or the other poster said because we were 'strangers' yet you are willing to spend your money on recommendations from strangers?
Why mention the word 'political'? I can see where you are trying to steer this but i'm not biting mate.
If you think i'm exaggerating or all the info on the subject is wrong then good for you.
Tight lines.

Here's my logic. I can't see any reason why anyone would deliberately mislead anyone regarding tackle advice. However, I have, during my 40 plus years on this planet, met a lot of people who have an axe to grind against people with other nationalities, races, religions etc, and these people have often made wildly exaggerated claims to support their case. I have never met you, so I do not know what politics you have. For example, a member of the EDL would never put Eastern Europeans in a good light. I have no idea what your general views are, therefore I would need to see evidence to believe that the Eastern European poaching is as bad as you say.

I've nothing else to add to this conversation.
 
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Here's my logic. I can't see any reason why anyone would deliberately mislead anyone regarding tackle advice. However, I have, during my 40 plus years on this planet, met a lot of people who have an axe to grind against people with other nationalities, races, religions etc, and these people have often made wildly exaggerated claims to support their case. I have never met you, so I do not know what politics you have. For example, a member of the EDL would never put Eastern Europeans in a good light. I have no idea what your general views are, therefore I would need to see evidence to believe that the Eastern European poaching is as bad as you say.

I've nothing else to add to this conversation.

If you can do so without losing the will to live then have a read through this thread eels...

http://www.fishingmagic.com/forums/...problem-head-morality-va-s-self-interest.html

The opening post acknowledges that there are many legitimate and passionate EE anglers and the on going discussion will also reveal many unfavourable opinions towards those EE's (and others) who don't abide by the law and from people I have come to know through FM... And none of whom who I would remotely associate as being far right extremists or racists, just simply their experiences and views on a very real angling problem.
 

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Here's my logic. I can't see any reason why anyone would deliberately mislead anyone regarding tackle advice. However, I have, during my 40 plus years on this planet, met a lot of people who have an axe to grind against people with other nationalities, races, religions etc, and these people have often made wildly exaggerated claims to support their case. I have never met you, so I do not know what politics you have. For example, a member of the EDL would never put Eastern Europeans in a good light. I have no idea what your general views are, therefore I would need to see evidence to believe that the Eastern European poaching is as bad as you say.

I've nothing else to add to this conversation.

Well mate, not only were you more or less saying I was making my personal experiences up, you are now suggesting my motives are racist! Your 'logic' as you put it is not only illogical it's preposterous. I'm not racist, I don't belong to any extreme political groups, I was merely sharing my own personal honest experience of this issue. Of course you have your own agenda, that was obvious from your first post. Indeed i'm surprised your last post hasn't been deleted as I thought politics were banned here.
I suggested you research this subject but I doubt if you have. There is a huge amount written on the subject from bailiffs, land and fishery owners, various organisations etc etc but on the other hand maybe in your world all these people are merely racists? Maybe it's all a conspiracy. Maybe we are all EDL members, maybe even Klu Klux Klan!
Really mate, keep your head buried in the sand. There is a saying, you can't win an argument with an idiot so i'm not even going to try. This is an angling forum mate so take your politics and use your race card somewhere else.
 
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Well mate, not only were you more or less saying I was making my personal experiences up, you are now suggesting my motives are racist! Your 'logic' as you put it is not only illogical it's preposterous. I'm not racist, I don't belong to any extreme political groups, I was merely sharing my own personal honest experience of this issue. Of course you have your own agenda, that was obvious from your first post. Indeed i'm surprised your last post hasn't been deleted as I thought politics were banned here.
I suggested you research this subject but I doubt if you have. There is a huge amount written on the subject from bailiffs, land and fishery owners, various organisations etc etc but on the other hand maybe in your world all these people are merely racists? Maybe it's all a conspiracy. Maybe we are all EDL members, maybe even Klu Klux Klan!
Really mate, keep your head buried in the sand. There is a saying, you can't win an argument with an idiot so i'm not even going to try. This is an angling forum mate so take your politics and use your race card somewhere else.

All I said was I didn't know anything about your politics. I certainly did not say you are an extremist, I just said I had no idea of your real motives, purely because you and I are strangers. That's all. Take a good look at what I wrote.

I can say for certain that I have looked online elsewhere and found very obvious general dislike of foreigners entering the conversation. Therefore I never know quite what to believe.

I would be very interested to read about the experiences of specific bailiffs and fishery owners, as you mention above. Post the links here and I will start educating myself on this subject. Thanks.
 
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