Paternoster sunk floats

[Matthew Nightingale (ACA)]

Being new to pike fishing I've bought some paternoster floats and a pal has shown me a paternoster rig. What I'm uncertain about is whether to have a stop or similar above the float. I'm imagining that I will have nylon going down through the float and will pull the swivel attached to the up-trace into the black rubber shroud on the bottom of the float. Is this enough to hold it or should I lock it? I'm obviously anxious to have a fish-safe rig so would rather not stop the float.

Link to the type of float below:Fox International - Products

TIA

Matthew

 

[Paul H]

The swivel should be tight enough in the rubber shroud to prevent the float from surfacing up the line. The rest of your description with the uptrace sounds right too.

This is PAC site rig suggestion : here.

Ignoring the stop knot/bead above the float of course.

Personally I have used a sliding stop knot to set the depth on sunken floats, without the rubber shroud, and would do again with no concerns.

 

[Welsh Goff I Do luv My Sheep]

Here are a couple more.

 

[andy mercer]

Hi Matthew, The CD rig is a useful rig as is the Helicopter rig, just dont forget the Uptrace for preventing bite offs.
Regards Andy

 

[Matthew Nightingale (ACA)]

Thanks guys

 

[MarkTheSpark]

I am a little concerned that the rigs shown earlier in this thread do not have an uptrace clearly marked. Please, if you are fishing any paternoster, use an uptrace. In my ignorance 20 years ago, I lost a very good pike through a bite-off.

To return to the original thread, I am with everyone on not using wire below 20lb and hooks below 10s.... more usually 8s and 6s on two-hook rigs, or a big, hefty single as the bait-holder and a treble on the end. I have used 15lb, and I once used some dodgy kevlar-wire stuff. The big problems with the light wire were excessive kinking and the fact that it could 'cheese wire' a hooked pike that rolled over it.

Looking on my trace roll right now, I realise I haven't used anything less than 25lb in recent years.

Pike aren't the sharpest knives the the drawer, and they are very, very rarely tackle-shy.

 

[johnpax]

Here are a couple more.

Hey all

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread but I am wondering can the above method be used for saltwater fishing for salmon/mullet/flathead/bream etc..

Thanks in advance