I think the red maggots absorb the dye with whatever they're fed on, whereas the bronzes used to have the dye applied externally. I think there's been some debate about whether it's safe for your local friendly robins to be eating your red maggots (which they do, given half a chance), but again, it's hard to prove anything definitively.What about red maggots? Is that a different dye? Are bronze maggots favoured by fish because of the colour or the extra flavour from the colouring process?
I reckon it's the 'whiteness' of natural undyed maggots that puts fish off - it seems to 'spook' them on occassions. On a small river I found a small shoal trout and hand fed them with some 'mixed' maggots and watched the shoal's reaction.What about red maggots? Is that a different dye? Are bronze maggots favoured by fish because of the colour or the extra flavour from the colouring process?
Wriggling Jason, live maggots just sprinkled with a spoonful of pure Krill (KPH) powder to 1 pint. It absorbs into their skin and they also eat it.Chris...is that pure krill meal you've used on maggots to colour them?
and is that riddling or wriggling?
You could be right about that. Perhaps any dye substance absorbed in their skin reduces their ability to secrete ammonia?I reckon it's the 'whiteness' of natural undyed maggots that puts fish off - it seems to 'spook' them on occassions.
I reckon it's the 'whiteness' of natural undyed maggots that puts fish off - it seems to 'spook' them on occassions. On a small river I found a small shoal trout and hand fed them with some 'mixed' maggots and watched the shoal's reaction.
Red and orange maggots were their favourites then yellow, green ones were totally ignored, but white ones initially spooked them as they descended the water column - when they hit the bottom the fish's interest would return and they'd move over them to investigate but keep their eyes open to readily intercept any more attractive descending coloured samples.
When there was a 'carpet' of whites in the gravel, the trout would move over them to 'graze' - using the waft of their fins to lift them off their resting places - before spinning back and snatching them as they started to re-descend.
This aversion to taking stationary baits off the bottom and trying to make them float-up might explain why I used to catch so many parr foul-hooked in the pectoral and caudal fins!
I've repeated this experiment on finding shoals of chublets - same results and behaviour but observations usually terminated by the moving-in of a larger specimen scattering the shoal!
Since then, if I'm planning on a trotting session, I'll usually take bronzies if I can get them, or a half and half mix of reds and plain, which turn off-white by dye transfer in the bait-tub.
I always think the same thing Cassey, even with a lot of the bait people use today!If Chrysodine is carcinogenic, makes you wonder what effect it had on fish, or anything else that ingested them through the 60's to 80's.
No Kev - they were next on the preference list, then comma, greens were ignored. It's a problem with commas being mixed as punctuation marks and also list separators!Ignored the yellows? .....
When I said they do use it in my local shop I didn't mean everyone else uses it...I really have no idea how many shops still use it.I don't believe that there's any doubt that Chrysoidine is carcinogenic. The doubt comes in as to whether it's actually being used as a colouring for all bronze maggots.