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Paco West

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Hi and thanks for my replys for my last message.
I am new to carp fishing and i was just wondering that if i was going for around 15lb and above what line strenth,hook size and bait would you recommend. Also would you use a hair trace thing!
The thing that goes below the hook that you attach boilys and pellets too. And if you do then how do you get the line through the bait???
thanks
Paco
 
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Rob Brownfield

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Looks like you need to do a little reading my friend. There are many articles published on the web or in mags showing how to use a hair rig. Its to difficult to explain in detail in words.

I think it is improtant that u walk before you can run, so, I would suggest forgetting complicated rigs etc and find a water that contains easy fish that u can catch on sweetcorn, luncheon meat etc. This will allow you to build experience and confidence.
Also, ask anglers on the lake. This is the best way of learning for your particular area...

Hope this helps a little
 
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Stewart Bloor

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Rob is right...wow, I can't believe I'm agreeing with him for once...let me just pinch myself here....only teasing Rob...
But seriously, Paco, as Rob says, walk before you run. You do say you are new to carp fishing. But does that mean you are already a fisherman or that you are starting off completely fresh?
 
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Paco West

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Hi and thanks for the replys
Now, i am a network system engineer(wow,big deal)23yrs old, so im not stupid and i would have appreciated it if you could have answered some of my questions like the line strength and hook size. I'm so busy i don't really have time to read fishing books at the moment. I have been catching small carp at the foxhole in northampton, upto 8lb but i want bigger fish. I've been and bought a shimano Carp CRUNCHER feeder rod and shiamno reel.Well cool they are.
Anyway the problem i had was that alot of small fish(tench)upto to 2lb were eating my maggots so i wanted to go onto bigger bait so only the bigger fish would take it.I even tried four maggots and these little tench still took it.Greedy buggers. Can you please advise me and tell me some good bait aswell. I heard pellets were good!!
thanks alot
Paco
 
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Rob Brownfield

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Sorry, going to be brutal here, we are all busy, myself especially, but we are trying to help you here. Some appriciation from yourself would not go amiss! I presume u are having a bad day so I will say no more.

If you want big carp, get proper carp gear, not feeder rods, read the books, listen to and learn from the advice given by anglers of many years experience, and most importantly, dont fish with baits smaller fish will pick up.

Boilies will sort the bigger fish. You can buy pre tied hair rigs, i would not drop below 8 pound line and a 1 3/4 pound test curve rod, probably recommend 10 pound line and a 2 1/4 pound rod. pellets will pick up small Tench just as much as maggots.
 
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Andy Thatcher

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Hi Paco no one intended any slight against you, well not initially anyway !

I think it is a case that Stewart, Rob and myself have all learned a great deal from reading about fishing and to be honest it is the best way to learn. For example if I were to say to you use the Knotless Knot the chances are you won't know what I am talking about, I am not able to show you a picture and to be honest as much chance of being able to describe it to you as catching a 66lb carp from a Scottish Lock.

This media is brilliant for communicating ideas but for demonstrating techniques it is lacking.
I only live down the road from you in Luton so drop me a line and I'll show you through a few rigs and things if you want.
 
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Paco West

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ahh sorry doods
i didn't mean to offend you. I appreciate that your all professionals and that you've learnt alot from reading. I like reading, but all my books have been on computers. I think i will take your advice and buy some magazines.
And your right i have had a bad day and i haven't a clue what a knotless knot is.
oh and thanks Andy for saying you will show me, your too kind, but my mrs is moaning about me not helping her enough with our newly born so i wont be going for a while anyway.
I might mail you when i'm free if thats ok.
And I know i bought a feeder rod, but its called a 'Carp Cruncher'. It must mean something!!

Thanks again everyone.
Paco
 
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Andy Thatcher

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Mail me anytime. Clear up one thing straight away we are not professional. Well I am not anyway, I wouldn't even claim gifted amateur !

Give this a try though.

If your lake has an island a maggot feeder cast regularly, every 10 minutes, will get interest.

If there are no features that you can see put on a lead, at least half an ounce, and cast out. Retrieve the lead slowly so it touches the bottom.
After doing this after a couple of casts you will start to tell when the lead is going through weed and when it is going over gravel. The weed will drag your feeder rod top round, gravel will feel bumpy. Cast to the gravel.
 
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Stewart Bloor

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Paco, I can't really add to what Rob and Andy have said about Netiquette...but as you say, you do all your reading on computers, then why not check out the fishing sites that are around? You can print off all the stuff that's useful and compile your own folder...actually, there's an article on how to be a carp fisherman right now on the Features section of FM....
 
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Dave Silvers

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Paco - No offence meant here, but are you sure you've got the time to go fishing.

Once you get past the basics and get set up with pods,buzzers and a bed chair then you can get out the reading material. It will improve your skills no end as well as filling the hours waiting for that magic run.
 
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graham jones

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can anyone inform me of carp in norton res in runcorn have blanked on past 6 visists ,heard of big carp but yet to catch
 
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Ron Clay

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Don't forget your welly wipes, bivvy slippers and carp ears!! I bet you didn't know that carp had ears. Have fun.
 
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Stewart Bloor

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Graham, why not post it as a new thread rather than tucking the question away in an existing one? That way, the headline is more likely to catch people's attention.
 
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Rob Brownfield

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Paco, incident forgotten mate.

Another good move would be to join the carp society as they have pamphlets on beginning carp fishing etc. There magazine is pretty good too. I would also recommend getting hold of a book called Carp (i think) by Kevin Maddocks. Its one of the original carp books and I feel it is much more informative than modern books as it shows you basic rigs and explains fully how carp feed and behave and the theory behind bait making etc. before carpers became fixated with what the bait companies are telling them. Well worth a read.
 
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Robert Draper

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I can see Paco's point though, I've recently taken up carp fishing and was advised to ask anglers on the bank. They proved less than helpful and in several cases downright abusive. The cult of secrecy that surrounds carp fishing is worse than the Masons on some waters - if you are not physically related to the carp angling "establishment" then you have no right to fish for carp.

Please if you have any advice that can help someone else, share it, it's the only way the sport will survive once the fashion has gone elsewhere.

Unfortunately I've yet to catch a carp or even see one caught so I have nothing to give :(.
 
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Stewart Bloor

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I think the point made about Paco was not so much what he said on the Forum, but rather the way it came over..anyway, as Rob said - incident forgotten.
Rob (D), sadly what you write is true with some anglers. Personally, I'm just a bit careful how I speak to another angler when approaching them for the first time. As I walk along the waters edge, I at least like to say 'hi', or ask them if they have caught. Not to start a big conversation or ask them to divulge their secrets. Just to be polite. If, as I walk along the bank, the angler sees me coming and he scowls or turns his head away, I just walk past. If he looks friendly or looks to say 'hi' himself, I may stop momentarily to chat. It all depends on the person that is before you.
But as for the giving of information, that again depends on the individual angler you're talking to. Without pushing it too much with them, I think after a short time of chatting with someone, you get a fairly decent idea of where they're coming from.
The giving of information is a difficult one. It's not really a black and white area, but rather grey. But, there are ways of discreetly not passing on certain things without being rude and aggressive.
I'm currently fishing a lake where there are a number of us that are in the specimen syndicate. My dealings with them so far have been great. We've shared info, baits etc. Without having a written rule we've got a respect for each other.
 
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Carp Angler

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Is there a need for a back to basics/beginners guide to carping on this site?

If so then I shall start penning some articles, mail me with areas you want covered at carp.angler@talk21.com
 
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Rob Brownfield

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Rik, I would say its the sort of thing that should be published every 6 months...maybe even as a downloadable PDF file. Perhaps a biginners section can be made for downlaods.....on all aspects of fishing and fish care???
 
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Carp Angler

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Yes Rob, I'll address it with Graham when he gets back from holiday.
 
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Stewart Bloor

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Graham's on holiday...I've been had again...he asked if he could borrow ?1000 from me to go and visit his sick aunt in Australia...
 
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