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chef

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have just come back from a couple of hours of fishing for carp on the fly, if its to hot for stillwater trout give the carp a go it was great fun and a first for me landed one of about 8lb but missed so many it was great fun! but just as i was packing up the owner came round to see me and i hooked a beast of a carp ,owner estimated the wieght at 15-17lb unfortunatley after 15 mins of fighting it threw the hook. as i said great fun on a 7# setup
 

chef

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hi,
they were on dry fly
Ed i was using sedges and daddy longlegs but a sinking line line with a booby on the point and two blood worm patterns on the droppers are supposed to work if carp are feeding on the bottom
if you can tie your own a ball of deer hair or elk spun round the hook and trimmed to look like a mixer biscuit is a killer so they say( i have problems tying with these materials)
give the carp a go but hold on tight to your rod
 
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay

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Spinning a deer hair fly is easy.

Put the hook in the vice and use fairly strong thread. Start the thread on the back of the hookshank but don't wind it to cover the hook shank.

Take a small amount of hair and hold it at about 45 degrees to the shankk and wind three or four turns around it. Then let go of the hair and pull the thread at 90 degrees to the shank.

The hair will spin around the shank.

Repeat this, tamping down the hair between each amount of hair until you have covered the whole hookshank.

Whip finish. Now you can start with your scissors to cut that mass of deer hair to shape.
 
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Newton

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What size fly do you use and how strong is your tippet and leader?
 

chef

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thanks Ron will give it another go.
newton, i was using 6lb level leader with a size 10 shot to sink line ,saves de-greasing every cast or so and a size 10-12 fly
 
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Robin Higgins

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Ron's description of spinning deer hair is spot on but I would just reiterate one thing - use strong thread. There is nothing more frustrating than getting to the last addition of hair and having the thread snap. Not that I have ever done that...No...Never!

I have fished for carp on the fly quite extensively and I thought you might be interested in some thoughts:

1. Leader of 6lb double strength (this is for fish up to about 15lbs). usually grease it to within about 9" of the hook.

2. Size 10 or 12 hook. I use one of the new Drennan barbel hooks which has a dull grey finish. I swapped from super specialists as I thought that the gold/bronze colour was spooking fish

3. Best thing to use on the hook has been a 10mm cork ball (available cheap from Ebay). This is then hair rigged. Using this method you don't have to worry about drying out your deer hair mixer that has become bedraggled after taking a few fish!

4. Striking does take some getting used to. I find the best time to strike is when you actually see the bait disappear. Often the carp mess around with it for ages before properly taking it but you have to just wait. It certainly gets the heart going though!

I hope that helps.

Robin
 
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Newton

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Did you fish with a base mix around the cork?
Did you use a flavouring or attractant or any freebies to a feeding fish?
Do you know of any carp are caught on Rapala lures or tubes flies?
 
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Robin Higgins

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Hi Newton

Nothing round the cork at all. In its natural state it resembles the mixers I am loose feeding.

No flavouring on the freebies either. I've heard this can make a difference but have never tried it myself. Later in the season when fish have been hammered on the top this may be a tactic I'll try.

I've heard of carp coming to lures, fish baits, fry imitations etc. but have never tried them myself as I think these are isolated incidents. I have heard that in the spring, tadpole imitations can be good if frogs are spawning.

Robin
 

Richard Baker 4

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A lot of people talk of missing carp on the strike when fishing floater imitiations. I've found it can be because the cork or dearhair is so bouyant it floats out of the carps mouth as it takes. I've found a hit a few more be couter balancing the bouyancy of the cork with lead wire underneath it on the hook shank. this sits it lower in the water.

To do this add the lead to the hook shank, then superglue the cork on top. Use an overly large piece. Then simply file or snip of bits of cork till the bait simply hangs in the surface film. kind of like just the floating side of neutral bouyancy if you know what I mean. stirke rate should improve.

best of luck

Rich
 
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