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Mcdemon

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As per my intro I want to start lure fishing when my river fly fishing season ends in October. This will hopefully keep me sane until next April.
I want to target perch and will try jigging and dropshot techniques over the winter months.
Tackle wise will probably use softbaits and maybe a cheeky worm and am looking at braided mainline. There are so many choices of braid I was thinking around 8 to 10lb breaking strain with a high visibility colour?
Any recommendation?
I will be using a 1000 size reel that has a capacity of 0.15mm diameter, 125m. Does this mean I will have to use some backing if I buy a 100m spool of less diameter or do I have to buy a bulk spool?
many thanks for your anticipated help.
 

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Suggest you use heavier braid, 8lb will be like razor wire. Stepping up to ~20lb bs, will enable easier retrieva of snagged lures and will be kinder to your fingertips. Could also be helpful if you connect with a large pike.
Personally I would use cheap mono as a backing,
 

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Seems to me you already have a fair idea what you need to do.

Personally I wouldnt bother with a fluro line & I underfill my spools with braid compared to mono to help avoid tangles. As Terry says you can just use cheap mono if you need a backing. I sometimes use a few turns of electical tape as well to bulk up a spool.
 

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M, what rod are you using as that really determines the braid diameter / strength to maintain a balanced set up, its a recipe for disaster say putting 20lb braid on a rod rated 3 to 7g.
Don't worry too much about bigger fish or snags, light jig heads especially a cheburashka rig combined with a EWG hook rigged weedless doesn't get snagged too often and even big pike can be landed with patience.
As a starter take a look at this video
Personally my 'go to' weight is 3g but will go heavier depending upon flow.
I really like the Crazy Fish Nimbles and have had literally hundreds of perch with quite a few over 3lbs on them. The 1.6" is good for cold water winter fishing, but bigger ones can be just as productive if the perch are 'up for it' although the 4" version can also be a pike magnet. For this reason I always use single strand Ti wire in either 6 or 12lb bs and can assure you perch don't seem to mind it being used.
I actually prefer a bigger reel and use 2500 / 3000 size, as I find a bigger spool better for line control loaded with 6 or 8lb Daiwa J braid.
AGM https://www.agmdiscountfishing.co.uk/ sell most of what you may need, they are competitive with their prices and really good with delivery times.
 

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Have a gander at this video which should give you a feel for drop shotting and the line/braid and tackle to use for dropshotting for Perch:


This may be of interest too (dropshot v jigs):


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I have a fox warrior dropshot rod 4-17g.
braid still confuses me as different brands have significant difference in thickness.
some great videos thanks guys.
M, what rod are you using as that really determines the braid diameter / strength to maintain a balanced set up, its a recipe for disaster say putting 20lb braid on a rod rated 3 to 7g.
Don't worry too much about bigger fish or snags, light jig heads especially a cheburashka rig combined with a EWG hook rigged weedless doesn't get snagged too often and even big pike can be landed with patience.
As a starter take a look at this video
Personally my 'go to' weight is 3g but will go heavier depending upon flow.
I really like the Crazy Fish Nimbles and have had literally hundreds of perch with quite a few over 3lbs on them. The 1.6" is good for cold water winter fishing, but bigger ones can be just as productive if the perch are 'up for it' although the 4" version can also be a pike magnet. For this reason I always use single strand Ti wire in either 6 or 12lb bs and can assure you perch don't seem to mind it being used.
I actually prefer a bigger reel and use 2500 / 3000 size, as I find a bigger spool better for line control loaded with 6 or 8lb Daiwa J braid.
AGM https://www.agmdiscountfishing.co.uk/ sell most of what you may need, they are competitive with their prices and really good with delivery times.
 

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Hi M, unfortunately most suppliers of fishing braid and line tell lies about the diameter / strength of their products. Stick to the more reputable suppliers and talk to people on the bank regarding what they use and how reliable it is.
I would definitely go for an 8 strand braid rather than 4 strand as its generally finer helping it cut through the water better and allowing you to use less weight, smoother and quieter going through the rings.
I'd go with the 10lb and use 5lb fluorocarbon for the leader drop shotting and 8lb Ti single strand wire around 9" to 12" long for small jigs.
All these are from AGM
Clips https://www.agmdiscountfishing.co.uk/product/gurza-duo-lock-snap-size-ul-10pcs/
Swivels https://www.agmdiscountfishing.co.u...er-x-strong-diamond-eye-swivel-size-18-10pcs/
Wire https://www.agmdiscountfishing.co.uk/product/gurza-nitinol-trace-wire-3-7kg-8lb-x-2mtrs/
Ti wire trace making
Paul (Riverpiker) has some very good tutorial videos for all types of lure fishing, take a look I'm sure you will find them informative. His Cahira wire is also very good. go for the 6lb as its a bit thicker on diameter and is much stronger than stated.
 

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Hi M, unfortunately most suppliers of fishing braid and line tell lies about the diameter / strength of their products. Stick to the more reputable suppliers and talk to people on the bank regarding what they use and how reliable it is.
I would definitely go for an 8 strand braid rather than 4 strand as its generally finer helping it cut through the water better and allowing you to use less weight, smoother and quieter going through the rings.
I'd go with the 10lb and use 5lb fluorocarbon for the leader drop shotting and 8lb Ti single strand wire around 9" to 12" long for small jigs.
All these are from AGM
Clips https://www.agmdiscountfishing.co.uk/product/gurza-duo-lock-snap-size-ul-10pcs/
Swivels https://www.agmdiscountfishing.co.u...er-x-strong-diamond-eye-swivel-size-18-10pcs/
Wire https://www.agmdiscountfishing.co.uk/product/gurza-nitinol-trace-wire-3-7kg-8lb-x-2mtrs/
Ti wire trace making
Paul (Riverpiker) has some very good tutorial videos for all types of lure fishing, take a look I'm sure you will find them informative. His Cahira wire is also very good. go for the 6lb as its a bit thicker on diameter and is much stronger than stated.
Thanks Phil best advice yet very informative. Yes will have a look around for the Daiwa braid. Willing to buy good quality line so I buy once. Not sure I will make my own traces though just yet. Maybe in the future but have a pointer for what to buy ready made.
thanks much appreciated very new to this bit different to the fishing I am used to and really looking forward to a trip when have got all the gear togather.
 
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