Just watched 150lb of prime tench stocked into a club lake…

Philip

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I blame the monks for the modern Carp scene. Not only did they stock em they also gathered in close-knit sects, drank loads of beer & with all those monastery roofs had access to tons of lead.

…the final damming nail being all those friar tuck bald spots. Clearly from plucking em out to tie up hair rigs.😜



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Ps. I blanked, thoroughly enjoyed a good 4 hours on what may be the last trip of the year. 70 miles return makes this an occasional visit venue but one to remember.
 

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I blame carp anglers who can’t be bothered to learn to fish properly. Ie angling and catching, not trapping!

As you wish. But until other anglers start paying what they pay very little is going to change

As for the trapping references I recon thats a terrible analogy to use with regard to whats more skillful.

Is it more skillful to chase the bunny round the woods with a twelve bore or set a trap in a spot you know he will visit ?

Six of one, half a dozen of the other...with imo things erring on side of the trapper showing more skill.
 
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Surely most forms of angling are trapping whether match or carp or that horrible pleasure fishing. The idea is by baiting up your swim you draw fish into your swim where the trap is set for you to catch them. I was more the hunter type that goes and finds the fish and then tries to catch them.
 

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Me.... I just go fishing, if I catch , I catch , if I don't , I don't.
Matches on hold at the moment , so are you chaser as in chasing a big weight with a couple of swims on the go. or a trapper hoping the margins come alive ?
 

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I realise that it’s often just banter, but some people actually believe that one branch of Angling is superior to the other branches of Angling. :)

They are all just different types of Angling aren’t they?

A Carp Angler sets their stall out and uses tackle capable for catching and landing the largest of specimens in their waters often regardless of the time involved between catching them (nothing wrong in that).

A match Angler sets their stall out for catching the most prolific specimens that are in their swim and try to catch a heavier catch of fish than their fellow match anglers within a time limit. (nothing wrong in that either).

A pleasure Angler who fishes solely for the ‘pleasure’ that it gives them; and who’s only competitors are the fish they catch (not other anglers); and who can choose the time of day they fish and the locations and swims they fish and even the species they catch if they also decide to specialise. (nothing wrong in that either).

So it doesn’t make any one of these branches of Angling any superior to the others does it?

Yes you get the less skilled in any branch of Angling; like the pools fodder who rarely if ever succeed in any of the matches that they fish; and the inexperienced Carp anglers who just plonk their tackle down in their usual swims and chuck out the same old rods and baits every week before catching up with their sleep; and the inexperienced pleasure anglers who never seem to improve much or even care whether they do or not; but as long as these Angler’s are enjoying themselves and not bothering other Angler’s and taking good care of what they catch and the places that they fish then who really cares?

Keith
 
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When a guy in a match feeds a far bank or margin swim,they are traps,add to that the sheer difficulty of catching bigger carp,none would be caught without baiting feeding spots.
 

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There is a lake near me which is free fishing as no one wants to take it on where the Tench go up to 9lb at least, as this was in the Angling Times last year under the Drennan cup.
 

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I'd probably be a bit more tempted to have a go in the close season on still water, if there were more variation of species and a prettier environment.

There's only one place in relatively easy reach of me that I've found so far that meets those criteria, which is some pretty little irrigation ponds for a fruit farm over at Great Rollright. I've enjoyed catching tench out of the ponds. As everyone says: a beautiful fish. Is there any truth to the thing abouts its slime being a home remedy?

 

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There is a lake near me which is free fishing as no one wants to take it on where the Tench go up to 9lb at least, as this was in the Angling Times last year under the Drennan cup.
I would say there are a few around the area that no one wants to take on.
Has anyone contacted Salford Friendly Anglers, they may want it.
I know Sale Water park had a bad reputation.
 

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At £12 a lb tench are an expensive fish to stock and they are in short supply.
£12 per pound is pretty good. However, I suspect that may be for fish less than about 1.5/2lb. 2lb is about the limit for most commercial fish farms to produce, they take too long to get to that size. Fish much bigger are usually around £15/lb and more for even bigger fish.
 

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I'm sure you are right Chris. One of my clubs stocked 34 tench between 4 and 8 lb into a nice local water so at a median figure the cost would have been around 3k. Multiply that by say 100 waters and the cost is way beyond resources of any club. Small fish will be cheaper but they make a nice snack for the cormorants, mink, pike and other predators.
 

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I think in many cases angling v trapping (or whatever pair of opposites you choose) are false alternatives. A lot of fishing involves a bit of both, eg feeding fish to hold them and make them catchable, then presenting a bait in a way they'll accept. Sure, some branches of fishing are more to one extreme than the other - leaving a bait all night on a self-hooking rig in a pile of feed or stalking individual fish - but I'd guess for most of what we do the distinction doesn't really apply as we're trapping and fishing at the same time.

I'd love to see more tench about. A useful alternative to expensive stocking would be to stop spoiling waters that contain them by introducing species that transform them into habitats that suit them less.
 

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Lovely to see. I wish I had somewhere local where I could catch those or anything else decent other than 8lb Carp. Who really wants them? Sigh.
 

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I'm sure you are right Chris. One of my clubs stocked 34 tench between 4 and 8 lb into a nice local water so at a median figure the cost would have been around 3k. Multiply that by say 100 waters and the cost is way beyond resources of any club. Small fish will be cheaper but they make a nice snack for the cormorants, mink, pike and other predators.
Last time we bought tench they were £18 per pound plus delivery plus blooming VAT.
 
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