Long distance tench/bream rod

[jasonbean1]

Seems to be a real gap in the market for this kind of thing, it's either barbel or. Light carp rods that are the options, drennan have stopped making the long distance one last year(never held or seen one though) other than that what's out there other than custom builds. Me I reckon a nice 13ft to 14ft 3 piece 2.2lb would be just right, power in the bottom half to cast with and still a bit of tip action. I don't need to keep them set up as they spend most the time in the shed it would need a nice long handle to punch it out and no silly carp rod type eyes and spacing. Any rod builders out there do that for £100 each

 

[peter crabtree]

For £100 you could get the Abu Suveran 11/13ft feeder rod.
Superb quality rod and chucks a long way.

 

[Rickrod]

Have a look at a shimano brench rod

 

[Terry D]

You can also get a 2ft extension to fit the Daiwa 11/13ft feeder rods, which really aid casting distances. I've got one myself for my Connoisseurs but have yet to use it. At least it's there when the occasion arises.

 

[reeds]

There was a big gap for this type of rod until Drennan did the Tench/Bream rods, but I didn't know they'd stopped making the distance version. If so, my advise would be to try to get some second hand ones as I doubt you'll find anything better.

Barbel rods are no good as you say, unless you're fishing close in. On a windy pit you need something a lot sharper in action.

I use the 1.75lb tc Drennans and they are absolutely superb for this type of fishing. I can fish comfortably and very accurately up to 65 yards in typical windy conditions, more if it's calmer or accuracy isn't so important. I wouldn't swap them for anything!

 

[lutra]

Why mess about with half baked rods? If you want distance use a carp rod. half the price and twice the distance.

Tench are just small green carp and bream are wet on any rod.

 

[binka]

It's a shame your question didn't come up a couple of months ago as Fosters of Birmingham were knocking out the original Hardy Marksman Extreme Feeder for less than two hundred quid to clear, they normally retail around £449 whatever less you can barter off them and although almost double the £100 you mention would have been an absolute bargain... I very nearly bought a second one just because it was so cheap!

I've been using the one I have for a couple of years now, it was originally designed for chucking feeders well in excess of a hundred yards and will do so fairly easily without sacrificing the pleasure of smaller fish, how they've built a blank that does it is beyond me as it really is a joy to use.

As for backbone and deep down power?

Well I've also been using mine as an excellent barbel rod too, especially on the occasions when the river cools down and you benefit from a more sensitive quivertip and again it's been a fantastic rod in this respect and great at 13' for keeping a bit more line out of the water and has accounted for numerous fast water doubles.

I honestly think it would have been just the thing for your long distance tench and bream although I haven't seen or used the other rods mentioned so can't comment on a comparable basis.

 

[tigger]

I remember looking at the drennan tench/bream rod when I got the barbel rods and in all honesty I could see no difference whatsoever in the actions of the rods. Only difference I could see was the tench rod had an extra guide. It wouldn't surprise me if they where the very same blanks with slightly different guide set up and just badged up differently.

 

[reeds]

If I wanted to fish at real distance or use heavier weights I'd agree with Lutra and just use carp rods. For the distances I was fishing and the relatively light weights I use, the Drennan was perfect.

I haven't used Drennan barbel rods so I can't say whether these are re-ringed and re-badged blanks, but they are totally different in action to the barbel rods I have used (Fox, Daiwa). They're basically light carp rods.

 

[cg74]

Jason, have a look at Matrix Horizon Feeder rods, I think J&K's stock them?
(I've never used them but they come highly recommended by someone I trust)

Also buy a pair of reels with bigger spools and load them with braid line.

 

[jasonbean1]

never heard of the purist brench, being a shimano it should be ok...be nice to have a wiggle of one though becuase it might not have enough backbone. i'm not after any thing with quiver tips by the way so the matrix while looking the part as no avon top as such.

lioke i said there is a real gap in market or perhaps thers not for drennan to drop it from there range

 

[The bad one]

First of all define what you mean by long distance? 50 yards + may be long distance to some. For me it’s double that on one water I have access to. On most others it 70 yards.
So I have three types of rods for these different waters. 50 Yds I’ll use a pair of Daiwa Specialist Mk 2s 1.5lb TC. Old but lovely rods to use and play fish on. 70 Yds and I’ll reach for the Harrison Interceptors 1.75. The 100 mark and it’s a pair of cheap fast taper soft top carp rods at 2.5 that I re-rung for the job. Further than that and I’ll find another water to fish as getting the bait in accurately and in the quantities I need is not worth the several hour needed. And I’ve no desires to become a model boater at any cost.

 

[bencarvosso]

have a look at the korum xpert rods in 2.2lb test.
should be exactly what you are looking for, they are getting rave reviews.
They also do lighter versions right down to 1.1lb.
I use some harrison ballista 2lb test rods for my tench and bream, they do all i need, but still tempted to maybe get a pair of the lighter korum rods in 1.75...
think they are around £100 mark

 

[andreagrispi]

For pure distance:-

1) feeder with quivertip I have two heavy Antares at 12ft. I can blast a 84gram maggot feeder over 90 meters whilst using 8lb maxima main line. Can get away with size 20 hook and 3lb bottom.

2) feeder with alarms I use three Fox Kevlar barbel multitips, with the 1.75lb top section I can fish maggot, ground bait and small method feeders, over 75 meters with 8lb maxima mainline with hooks down to 16 and 5-6lb bottoms.

3) big method feeders I use two Fox barbel floodwaters which are 2.75lb tc. I use these in conjunction with 15lb main line with smallest hooks at size 12 and lightest bottoms at 11lb. I can wack out a large method feeder up to 80 meters.

 

[jasonbean1]

Well I've took the plunge and gone for a pair of korum xpert 2.2's. they look good value And I got a good deal from hinders. It's not like me to buy blind.
But if there's one companies products I trust its korum. They seem to be the only off the shelf rod out there that says it can do the job so I'll let you know how they perform after a run out next week at linear. Thanks for all the advice

 

[binka]

I'll let you know how they perform after a run out next week at linear. Thanks for all the advice

How did you get on with the Korums Jason, any feedback yet?

I've been thinking about this thread after the problem I've been having on a local pit... I'm doubling up and using Fox Warrior 2.75lb deadbait rods (slightly softer in the tip than the carp counterparts) to fling method feeders well over a hundred yards to reach a specific area of deeper water but losing way too many fish close in on the final lunge.

I've tried slackening the drag off but that just bounces the method around too much and bumps the hook out, maybe I should try the elasticated version?

I know deep down that the rods are just too harsh but this addresses the dilemma of the required long chuck.

Edited to add: I'm looking at the 1.75lb version

 

[jasonbean1]

well...i've got to say they are the best value rods i've ever bought, so far they've done what i have asked of them. carp to 27lb, bream to 11lb and tench to nearly 10lb.

they seem to have got the ballance of chuckabilty and playing tench and bream just right. big eyes but not too big, spaced out well but not too far.

just need to get out fishing more with them...next stop i think will be on severn at worcester

 

[graham777]

well...i've got to say they are the best value rods i've ever bought, so far they've done what i have asked of them. carp to 27lb, bream to 11lb and tench to nearly 10lb.

they seem to have got the ballance of chuckabilty and playing tench and bream just right. big eyes but not too big, spaced out well but not too far.

just need to get out fishing more with them...next stop i think will be on severn at worcester

Hi Jason how are you getting on with these rod's now ?? might look at buying myself a pair for some long range Tench and Bream fishing on a big pit looking at something that can hit 100 yards + so interested in these ! cheers mate

 

[smallbreamboy]

Hi Jason how are you getting on with these rod's now ?? might look at buying myself a pair for some long range Tench and Bream fishing on a big pit looking at something that can hit 100 yards + so interested in these ! cheers mate

Graham,

Have a look at the wychwood solace 13ft 2.5lb rod. I have the older version (maximiser twin tip 13ft), and for the price a stunning rod. They have a fast enough action to get a lead out, but still nice when playing a big slab.

The extra 1ft does help a little with the distance also.

Someone mentioned the purist brench. It's a faster action than the korum, and I got rid of mine as they did seem a little too stiff at times.

 

[sam vimes]

Someone mentioned the purist brench. It's a faster action than the korum, and I got rid of mine as they did seem a little too stiff at times.

That's interesting, I know of a few anglers quite keen to find them for fishing for big roach at extreme range. Every time I find them for sale, I give the relevant information to a friend (that already owns some) and he passes it to others he knows want some.