Sufix InvisiLine Castable Fluorocarbon Fishing Mainline!

[Scuba Chris]

Yup! Pliable Fluorocarbon Mainline-You Read This Correctly
Available in 4lb, 5lb, 6lb, 7lb, 8lb, 10lb, 12lb, 14lb, 17lb, & 20lb.
I received 3-rolls of 5lb spools rated @ 5lb or 23kg.
Virtually invisible, strong & sensitive mainline! Not leaderline.
These packs are 200yd or 185m (0.0075in or 0.19mm). Also 100yd.

Soft not hard fluorocarbon line.
Impervious to ultra violet.
Still low stretch for fast hook-sets.
Sinks 4x faster than traditional nylon.
Delivers the bait/lure faster!
Can be used for spinning & casting reels.
Also most importantly no line memory issues.

So why use expensive 5lb fluoro over proven 4lb mono for ultralighting?
1) Line diameters are almost the same.
2) Breaking strength of the 2 lines are roughly the same.
3) The fluoro will sink much faster than mono getting the bait/lure to the fish much faster. I'll be targeting Bigeye Scads known as Akule so this is important. 4) Main reason is the fluorocarbon sinks faster than mono thus getting the hook down quicker to your targeted species for both fresh & saltwater species. And in comparison this brand of fluoro has superior line strength.

 

[mikench]

23kg is over 50lbs.

 

[nottskev]

23kg is over 50lbs.

Probably meant 2.3 kg

 

[Alan Whitty]

I've used a few suffix lines, still have some in a draw somewhere and found them poor for casting compared to virtually every other line, I couldn't understand because the line lay looked perfect, so I'm unlikely to take a punt...

 

[Ryan "Ribblecraft" Turner]

My first Barbel was tamed using 9lb-ish Sufix Herculine fused "braid" although it's not braided, like Fireline, totally smooth etc. and I used it for ages on my reel then wound it onto my spare spool so it was reversed and used it for ages more! Obviously this is only vaguely relevant as regards the manufacturer but I thought it worth mentioning as another user of the brand. If I could find it I would certainly buy more. (btw, the barbel was 9lb6oz on a 6lb Maxima hooklength.)

 

[RMNDIL]

Hate to say it but what cobblers

 

[@Clive]

Yep!

There is nothing in his post to suggest that he has actually used the line let alone for any meaningful period to prove durability, knot strength, etc. It is all hype.

 

[RMNDIL]

Soft not hard fluorocarbon even though fluorocarbon is hard, noticeably harder than nylon.

Sinks 4x faster even though fluorocarbon is less than +50% denser. And sinks with what attached? What type of rig?

5lb fluo and 4lb nylon are same diameter (not if the b/s is accurate they wont be) and are the same strength ...so the b/s quoted are not at all accurate then

Its all marketing spiel and misleading and, unfortunately, so typical of many ads...and SC

 

[Scuba Chris]

Probably meant 2.3 kg

Sorry, fast typing fingers. Thanks

 

[Scuba Chris]

Soft not hard fluorocarbon even though fluorocarbon is hard, noticeably harder than nylon.

Sinks 4x faster even though fluorocarbon is less than +50% denser. And sinks with what attached? What type of rig?

5lb fluo and 4lb nylon are same diameter (not if the b/s is accurate they wont be) and are the same strength ...so the b/s quoted are not at all accurate then

Its all marketing spiel and misleading and, unfortunately, so typical of many ads...and SC

Excuse me? I'm not with any companies here & i PAID for the Sufix line, Daiwa Presso rod & reel. Like everything else i have & use for years now. I gave one of my extra spools to a good man with a family. He uses my hand-me-downs. A 4ft Needlefish broke the line per it's razor teeth but our targeted species, Scads were caught. I purposely emitted those vids out because i don't need others asking for free gear as i own the largest online fishing page where i'm at. So next time when you make false online accusations do your homework first. Most of the smart ones figured this out years ago as i show the good & bad of many companies out there & i point it out. I mostly try to use Daiwa now even after i found one of their Surf Rods had a design flaw. Because they worked with me to fix what i felt was the issue. Turned out i was right. And Daiwa appreciated that i caught this flaw early & even ok'd my review on it. It's all online.

 

[Scuba Chris]

23kg is over 50lbs.

Sorry sir, forgot to add the dot for 2.3. My fault & error. Most times spellcheck helps but this time it was on me.

 

[@Clive]

You haven't answered the points that were made regarding your claims about the product.

And you cannot possibly use all the tackle that you spam on here. You'd need to be fishing 24/365 to get any meaningful experience of the stuff. Your videos are nothing more than unboxing reviews - meaningless.

 

[pl71]

Spam or not I’d rather watch Chris’s videos than read the huge amount of drivel between a few members hellbent on boring the socks off other members and guests with their petty name calling exchanges going on for days at a time.

 

[@Clive]

Spam or not I’d rather watch Chris’s videos than read the huge amount of drivel between a few members hellbent on boring the socks off other members and guests with their petty name calling exchanges going on for days at a time.

Feel free to watch them as much as you like John. But, I'm surprised that you enjoy them so much, with you claiming not to be a sea angler

 

[RMNDIL]

So next time when you make false online accusations do your homework first.

Where ? What false accusations ??

Simple facts and common knowledge available everywhere.

 

[Scuba Chris]

Correct. Facts from the developers during testing are available. If some are too lazy to look it up on their own after it was made available can't help them there. And i guess Amazon must be wrong too as well posting "false" information because 1 or 2 here know more without testing these products like the developers did.

 

[RMNDIL]

Correct. Facts from the developers during testing are available. If some are too lazy to look it up on their own after it was made available can't help them there. And i guess Amazon must be wrong too as well posting "false" information because 1 or 2 here know more without testing these products like the developers did.

They need to get their facts straight then regarding Fluorocarbon v Nylon 6/66.

 

[@Clive]

Correct. Facts from the developers during testing are available. If some are too lazy to look it up on their own after it was made available can't help them there. And i guess Amazon must be wrong too as well posting "false" information because 1 or 2 here know more without testing these products like the developers did.

The Sufix website does not show testing data. You have just copied their blurb.

If something sinks 4 times faster than nylon then it has to be at least 4 times more dense, i.e. heavier for the same volume. Factor in the resistance applied as a line sinks through the water, different for salt and fresh, and you would be looking at 5 to 6 times more dense to sink 4 times faster as you, or they, claim. I'll bet that you haven't tank tested a length of this line against your normal line. Easy to do.

Have you weighed the line? Again easy to do. Weigh the full spool, get somebody to spool it onto your reel then weigh the empty spool, subtract the weight and divide the result first by the length then multiply the diameter.

Then do the same with a spool of nylon. If it isn't at least 4 times heavier then the claim is bulls**t There are lots of 'reviews' of this line on the web. All posted by people like you who are masquerading as independent reviewers when in reality they are working for the trade and avoiding advertising costs by spamming sites like this one.

 

[RMNDIL]

The Sufix website does not show testing data. You have just copied their blurb.

If something sinks 4 times faster than nylon then it has to be at least 4 times more dense, i.e. heavier for the same volume. Factor is the resistance applied as a line sinks through the water, different for salt and fresh, and you would be looking at 5 to 6 times more dense to sink 4 times faster as you, or they, claim. I'll bet that you haven't tank tested a length of this line against your normal line. Easy to do.

Have you weighed the line? Again easy to do. Weigh the full spool, get somebody to spool it onto your reel then weigh the empty spool, subtract the weight and divide the result first by the length then multiply the diameter.

Then do the same with a spool of nylon. If it isn't at least 4 times heavier then the claim is bulls**t There are lots of 'reviews' of this line on the web. All posted by people like you who are masquerading as independent reviewers when in reality they are working for the trade and avoiding advertising costs by spamming sites like this one.

Correct. Or you only need to compare the SG of the two materials and they tell anybody that the fluorocarbon is not 4x higher/denser (roughly 1.78 v 1.2). Which also tells anybody that fluorocarbon is harder not softer. Etc etc.