-- after being caught on rod and line, and which one gets the "wooden spoon" ?
Big roach will always be an enigma, I think they are more common than people think after all you can get them everywhere from tiny brooks to canals, tidal rivers, small ponds, large reservoirs etc etc. Not sure there's a type of water that cannot do one, also they are so widespread geographically all over the country and capable of growing large in both hot and cold climatesIt very much depends on the venue. Certainly there are carp that never pick up a bait. Overall big roach are the hardest fish to catch because: there are not many of 'em; they are naturally nervous and conditions/presentation/bait have to be spot on!