We had a TFCC meetign a few weeks ago, even Andy nellist attended, at which the AT were represented and like you I was disappointed. To be frank, Mike Heylin stood up and spoke and gave out more information than we heard from the AT guys, although Mike is a director, I think. Anyway, Mike is, as far as I am concerned, one of their best spokespeople.In June I attended the EA Northumbria Area Fisheries Forum in Newcastle where the new A.T. regional rep gave a presentation on the A.T. /A.D.B. and why we should all join. Oh how I wished the ground would open and swallow me up.