Anyone bitten by a pike will know how much you will bleed, some BIG teeth!

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I just found this Youtube video by scottish kayak angler Nicolas Valetin.......


Hope he does not mind my sharing these screenshots......

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I remember my hand bleeding for hours after a 20lb Loch Lomond pike flexed and snapped as I was removing a hook from its jaw. The deck of my boat was covered in my blood, those teeth went clean through across my hands full width. Very fortunate I had no nerve or tendon damage!

Nicolas and his friends are very experienced kayak anglers, both around the coast and freshwater lochs.
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In the early eighties pike fishing was entering more enlightened times in no small part due to the efforts of the PAC. Having read up on their recommended unhooking technique it was time to consign the gag to the dustbin. At this time I was very much a novice pike angler. Having thought I had mastered the hook removal process I somehow got badly bitten by a pike in the process of removing the hooks. The cut was deep it bleed for a long time and my cut finger hurt like hell. As a precaution I went to the Lister Hospital in Stevenage for a tetanus jab I don't think the nurse believed me when I said a had been bitten by a fish. Nowadays I always wear a glove when unhooking pike
 

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Many year ago I made a mistake when unhooking a pike. I still have the scares and now always wear a glove. One thing I would never do is hand land a pike
matt hayes and mick brown did on many occasion
 
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The last time I demonstrated to someone how to unhook a pike safely I took some skin off of the back of my un-gloved hand and it bled for ages 🙂

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I've never been bitten by a Pike... I say 'bitten' but in reality the fish isn't intending to do that in an unhooking situation, but i have been clumsy withdrawing my hand from the mouth after unhooking and catching the back of my hand on the rear facing teeth on the roof of the mouth.

And yes as Seth says the anticoagulant will cause further concern, always in my case without further issue.

I used to be a member of the PAC throughout the 90's and their work promoting the handling and general fragility of Pike as a species, in contrast to the image we generally conjure up, is testimony to their deeper understanding and respect of the wider angling public to this day.

Far removed from what I was brought up on, well done them.
 

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We were watching a re-run of an old Out of Town episode the other night. A 14lb Hampshire Avon pike being hauled out by the trace, a 20lb one gaffed, unhooking using a gag and then hauled up with the hook of the scales through its chin for weighing.

Happy days :ROFLMAO:
 

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Much as I enjoy those programmes I don't always buy his line that country ways are always best, farmers can do no wrong and "townies" are all idiots. I watched one the other evening where he dismissed as typical townie ignorance concerns over loss of hedge-rows ............. now recognised as important wildlife corridors.
 

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Much as I enjoy those programmes I don't always buy his line that country ways are always best, farmers can do no wrong and "townies" are all idiots. I watched one the other evening where he dismissed as typical townie ignorance concerns over loss of hedge-rows ............. now recognised as important wildlife corridors.
I have just planted a new hedge-row along one of my boundary fences. Hopefully I will be around long enough to is it mature .
 

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Much as I enjoy those programmes I don't always buy his line that country ways are always best, farmers can do no wrong and "townies" are all idiots. I watched one the other evening where he dismissed as typical townie ignorance concerns over loss of hedge-rows ............. now recognised as important wildlife corridors.

He was the same when defending the practise of putting bulls into fields that are crossed by footpaths. Apparently the ramblers should ramble elsewhere despite their having an enshrined legal right to use the footpath without hinderance.

When he is on one of these hobby-horses I noticed that he has a cheeky smile and glances up, presumably at the camera man. It is all pre-arranged.

There is a lot of the content that I enjoy, but some of the old ways don't stand the test of time for efficiency or on humanitarian grounds.
 

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I've never exactly been bitten by a pike, but I've had "raker rash" on the backs of my fingers countless times. And as someone who used to have to take Warfarin (no longer, thank goodness) the double hit of medicinal anticoagulant and natural anticoagulant in the pikes' mouths I can tell you that I used to bleed for ages! Worse for me though was the occasion when a pike shook its head while I was unhooking it and a second "flying" barbed treble on the lure embedded itself in both a finger and thumb of my left hand at the same time. I had to cut the hook with my wire snips just to be able to hold the steering wheel of my car so I could drive to my local A&E department. As an aside, the doctor there had to be persuaded to push the cut hooks through rather than just yank them out! Despite his experience he'd never come across this kind of injury before, so if it ever happens to you be ready to assert yourself with the doctors about the best way forward. I've been an adherent to semi barbed hooks ever since.

As a frequent pike angler I do think that cuts and grazes on hands are inevitable, but I also think that the macho "I never wear gloves" merchants are wrong. So long as the gloves don't make your hands so clumsy as to make the job impossible or harmful to the fish I say protect your skin.
 
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I've never exactly been bitten by a pike, but I've had "raker rash" on the backs of my fingers countless times. And as someone who used to have to take Warfarin (no longer, thank goodness) the double hit of medicinal coagulant and natural coagulant in the pikes' mouths I can tell you that I used to bleed for ages! Worse for me though was the occasion when a pike shook its head while I was unhooking it and a second "flying" barbed treble on the lure embedded itself in both a finger and thumb of my left hand at the same time. I had to cut the hook with my wire snips just to be able to hold the steering wheel of my car so I could drive to my local A&E department. As an aside, the doctor there had to be persuaded to push the cut hooks through rather than just yank them out! Despite his experience he'd never come across this kind of injury before, so if it ever happens to you be ready to assert yourself with the doctors about the best way forward. I've been an adherent to semi barbed hooks ever since.

As a frequent pike angler I do think that cuts and grazes on hands are inevitable, but I also think that the macho "I never wear gloves" merchants are wrong. So long as the gloves don't make your hands so clumsy as to make the job impossible or harmful to the fish I say protect your skin.
Any small wound in a "dirty" environment can have devastating consequences!

When I was fishing off the north of Shetland I was holding a good sized cod for unhooking. The sea was rough and a large wave hit the boat, instinctively I let go of the cod to grab a handrail. My right hand was still holding the lure and was just inside the cods mouth, the fish kicked and spun with its teeth raking my knuckles.

The teeth were long enough to cut deep and draw blood, I have had many scratches like that, no big deal! So I washed my hand in cold Atlantic sea water, we were far away from possible pollution, and carried on fishing. The wound bled quite a bit but there was no danger (I thought!)

The next day I flew back to Edinburgh and prepared for the next days travel to the SW Scottish coast for a holiday with my wife.
On the drive my hand was starting to hurt! The following morning I was running a fever and Sally drove me to hospital........blood poisoning!

Two lengthy stays in hospital with sepsis that would not respond to antibiotics. It took over 18 months, several changes of antibiotics, an operation to clean out my wrist-joint and a lot of prolonged pain, before the infection was halted. I still have some pain and a wrist with limited movement, but I did not lose the arm to the infection.

After several blood tests the bacteria responsible was found to be a deep sea type. After catching and eating so many sea fish I guess the fishy world almost got its revenge!

I can still cast a fishing rod, but probably best I stick to "gummy" fish and avoid pike and similar predators.
 

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Any small wound in a "dirty" environment can have devastating consequences!

When I was fishing off the north of Shetland I was holding a good sized cod for unhooking. The sea was rough and a large wave hit the boat, instinctively I let go of the cod to grab a handrail. My right hand was still holding the lure and was just inside the cods mouth, the fish kicked and spun with its teeth raking my knuckles.

The teeth were long enough to cut deep and draw blood, I have had many scratches like that, no big deal! So I washed my hand in cold Atlantic sea water, we were far away from possible pollution, and carried on fishing. The wound bled quite a bit but there was no danger (I thought!)

The next day I flew back to Edinburgh and prepared for the next days travel to the SW Scottish coast for a holiday with my wife.
On the drive my hand was starting to hurt! The following morning I was running a fever and Sally drove me to hospital........blood poisoning!

Two lengthy stays in hospital with sepsis that would not respond to antibiotics. It took over 18 months, several changes of antibiotics, an operation to clean out my wrist-joint and a lot of prolonged pain, before the infection was halted. I still have some pain and a wrist with limited movement, but I did not lose the arm to the infection.

After several blood tests the bacteria responsible was found to be a deep sea type. After catching and eating so many sea fish I guess the fishy world almost got its revenge!

I can still cast a fishing rod, but probably best I stick to "gummy" fish and avoid pike and similar predators.
Bloody hell that was nasty. I think with some of the things that have happened to me that I've been very lucky, certainly compared to what has happened to you.
 

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Bloody hell that was nasty. I think with some of the things that have happened to me that I've been very lucky, certainly compared to what has happened to you.
There are still some of my sea fishing "friends" that think my story is Bull-s$$$. One of them would not believe me when I warned him he should avoid eating bass caught from a section of the Forth estuary near Grangemouth either!

Those "friends" did not notice my absence from the fishing scene for two years!

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Personally I would have thought common sense would kick in about all sorts of "nasties" in that environment. Even when I explained to him that a scientific survey of fish caught here showed some really nasty toxins in them, he still was unconvinced!

Even though I like to think I keep myself aware of risks, I sometimes make mistakes. Now, where in my tackle bag is the Savlon and a few plasters? :confused:...........and some Imodium! :censored:
 

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Having read this thread, why are we still reciting the old wives tale that pike have an anticoagulant in their mouth/ teeth.
There is no empirical or scientific evidence for this.

There is no evolutionary benefit - they are not blood suckers like leeches, lamprey or bats, indeed I can think of no large carnivorous animal that does have an anticoagulant bite.

Come on guys it's 2025 not 1955.
What next a thread about the medicinal benefits of tench slime.
 

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Having read this thread, why are we still reciting the old wives tale that pike have an anticoagulant in their mouth/ teeth.
There is no empirical or scientific evidence for this.

There is no evolutionary benefit - they are not blood suckers like leeches, lamprey or bats, indeed I can think of no large carnivorous animal that does have an anticoagulant bite.

Come on guys it's 2025 not 1955.
What next a thread about the medicinal benefits of tench slime.
Hardly matters about the "anticoagulant" that may or may not exist on fish teeth. The point (pun intended!) of the original post was to draw attention to just how deep a pikes teeth will cut, in an instant. Cold hands and water containing so many organisms will ensure blood flows and gives a real chance of infections.

My other post on this thread tries to emphasize the consequences of not treating any small wounds, sepsis is a not uncommon but has devastating results. So much pain, disabilties, amputations and not infrequently painful and prolonged deaths result from the smallest wounds.

This was as well understood in 1955 as it is now in 2025.

The bigger risks are probably individuals ignorance and, almost certainly, male Bravado!

Having been close to this and find I still have to tolerate a degree of pain as a result, please excuse my emphatically making this point.

I admit to having been exceptionally stupid...... and suffered the consequences! 🤒
 

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@Steve Arnold, I take exception to your statement "it hardly matters etc....."
Hardly matters about the "anticoagulant" that may or may not exist on fish teeth
The point I made is there is no scientific evidence for anticoagulant properties on pikes teeth or mouth.
Prove me wrong.

As to your points regarding water borne diseases, I am in complete agreement.
 

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I have enjoyed this thread and agree that no teeth carry anticoagulants except for the fangs of some lizards and the fangs of venomous snakes but it is the venom injected by the fangs which contain toxins and anticoagulants. It’s the bacteria present on teeth and in saliva which is dangerous. All teeth bites even human ones can spread bacteria if the skin is broken and blood is spilt. A tetanus jab should be a must if your last one was over 5 years ago. A tiny cut can be lethal if sepsis or gangrene sets in. We cannot be too careful particularly as we get older.
 
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