Ron, Yep barbaric it seems. Somehow it exists as one of the standard angling rigs with the rietvlei and paternoster rigs. My own feeling is that two hooks is one to many and therefore it isn’t part of my standard set-up. I still do however use these rigs when fishing unprepared swims and therefore do not know what bait would work. As for general consensus I cannot vouch for every SA angler. Seeing that these methods have been employed for so many years as well as massive removal of caught fish, they won’t change any time soon. The main difference between SA and European angling for Carp is that SA anglers still feel that Carp is everywhere and is a replenish able source. So at no stage would changes such as C&R and single hook laws be passed. Although it is enforced on private estate dams Most fishing water is still state owned and as long as the government or provincial government do not have to spend money on these resources (upgrading facilities etc) and the general angler is happy to fish under these circumstances things wont change any time soon. It is up to the angler as individual to ensure that he does his bit. And as with most things in life, when it is dependant on human behaviour, it sadly fails.