Deep spools - Why?

[Matt Brown]

It's that time of year where I re-spool my reels. In the last 24 hours I've re-spooled 4 reels and I'm wondering why the heck the spools are so deep.

I've just chucked some 4lb line onto some 4000 size Shimanos and had to use tons of line as backing. According to the spool, it takes 260m of 0.25mm line to fill a spool. So I've used at least 300m of my 0.205mm 4lb Sensor line on a reel that's never going to cast more than 60 yards.

Likewise I've just stuck some 8lb Krystonite on my baitrunners for Tenching and had to use around 200 metres of backing line. The only suitable line I had kicking around was some 18lb Krystonite.

Not only does this mean I'm paying for around 3 times as much line as I need, but it's 3 times as much hassle spooling up.

This has bugged me since I was a kid and I've had enough now. I appreciate that long cast specialists need greater line capacity, but aren't they all using big pit reels by now? Isn't it time shallow spools were the norm?

Is it just me?

 

[Beecy]

agree Matt.

I build up my deeper spools with electricians tape first.


I'm more bothered about the width/diameter of the spools these days, they seem to be getting smaller ?

 

[jason fisher]

matt if it's any consolation you could have been trying to empty a couple of big bait runner long casts, there's miles of the stuff on there.

note on emptying spools. if you get an electric drill you can put a bolt through an old empty spool stick the spool on the floor and watch the dog chase it round the house for a few minutes, this way you end up with the dead line on a spool which can be cellotaped in place befor disposal.
in stead of loads of nast birds nest waiting to kill a seagull on the tip.

 

[chavender]

they sell deep spools so we havve to go out and buy bulk line to fill them with !

 

[Mark Hewitt]

Not seen one yet, but I've heard the new fox reel comes with clip on spacers that reduce the spool capacity if required. Good idear - long overdue!

 

[Bryan Baron 2]

I pad them out withold line. The next time i re-fill the spool i just take it down to the join and start again. Only real hassle is on new reels.

 

[The Monk]

MY understanding is that the deep spool was developed when the fixed spool reel was first introduced. At the time the type of nylon and silk lines we used require a backing line to prevent damage as the line was wetted and layer back onto the spool after usage. The practice continued as new lines where developed, however many manufacturers offer a device which fits into the spool to shallow the capacity and thus reduce the amount of line the spool needs to carry

 

[Matt Brown]

I've never seen such devices on sale. Does anyone know where they can be purchased?

 

[Frothey]

you used to get them with daiwa emblems, wish big pits still came with them!

 

[The Monk]

alternatively Matt just use a backing line, maybe an old fly line and then paste a resin over the top

 

[Paul B]

Have to agree Matt. However, Shimano do (extra) shallow spools ie 100m 4lb line for various models in the 4000 size; don't the 6000 baitrunner spools fit the 8000's? don't know of smaller spools for the 5000's tho.
On my emcast 5500's, I half filled the spools with cheap 18lb line which won't be coming off. Then topped up with 200yds of 15lb line on em.

 

[Deecy ACA]

Matt you got them on Daiwa Tournaments too.Maybe worth ringing Daiwa or Shimano ??
Easy to make ouy of some flexible plastic sheeting or as others have said cobble something together with old line and insulating tape.I have used string in the past sealed with tape.Worked fine and didn't affect line line lay.Think it was on Cardinal 55's or 54's.