Peter, I think it's possible that when the roach suspects that the bait it so innocently took into its mouth becomes suspicious its instinct is to "blow" it backwards.That folding a maggot over the hook point seems to be a favourite roach trick. I have often wondered how they do it.
It's a quirk of the software unfortunately, but I'm going to merge the threads now as agree it makes much more sense to have this as one thread!
First mentioned to me by an Aussie 25 years ago in relation to predator fishing. The really cheap really fishy stuff works best allegedly.Put a dropnet in the edge with a tin of catfood with a few holes pierced into it,tied to the net hours of endless shell crunching fun....
Think the trick of creating a diversion with a tin of pierced cat food is worth a go. I had similar trouble on a stretch of the GU near Croxley-infested with the buggers, but a tin in the margin certainly helped, a lot.Roachers, thank you for getting back to me on my crackpot Obsession. It’s good to know I’m not on my own out there in the dark!
Re catching MORE crayfish?! Well, I’d only want to do that IF the EA allowed us to use dead crays caught from the river being fished as bait. I can see no logic whatsoever in not permitting this. I believe they demand that any crayfish coming our way is simply crushed underfoot on the bank and left to rot. Putting them back on a big hook and being cast out hardly seems like breaking any environmental law to me.
I spent many hours on a bridge across the Wensum watching dace, chub , roach and crayfish feeding over beds of sweet corn. This was an experience that lasted for two years and the lessons were profound. I have to say the crays DID tuck into the corn but the chub frequently tucked into them! If a cray turned over in the current and lost footing, it would generally be picked off fast. Even small fish, minnows included, showed no fear of crays whatsoever and would frequently pull corn out of their very claws. Never once did I see a small fish troubled, never mind actually caught.
I really do appreciate your thoughts and keep them coming but on this one I see no answer apart from catch a zillion crays and hope one bite eventually results in something with fins!