Morespiders
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Pete Frost now theres a name, met him twice, a true gentleman,still about ,hopefully. Albert Oldfield does anybody remember him? (Graham), also Jack Davenport both v/good roach anglers.
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Kind words Fred, a book eh? Mmmm.
You will find it is John Etherington, not Jim. He pursued large dace in the upper Kennet for several years and I remember him tearing me off a strip as a teenager when I showed myself above the skyline where he was stalking chub. You are correct about Clarkson though, he did Clarkson?s Comment. John Piper was another regular in that splendid magazine.
I once watched in wonder when Barrie Welham demonstrated fly casting with a salmon rod on the large weirpool in Guildford. He was invited to do so by Jeffreys, a splendid tackle shop in that town where I bought my very first hooks (to gut), Bell la Cloche line and mixed lead spilt shot in a small tin with sliding lid.
Peter Butler was a dedicated big roach man who fished the large concrete Staines reservoirs.
Didn?t Albert Oldfield gain fame with big perch form the Maccclesfield canal?
No one has mentioned the fantastic Ivan Marks and the Leicester Likely Lads. Any elderly matchmen like to comment?
You will find it is John Etherington, not Jim. He pursued large dace in the upper Kennet for several years and I remember him tearing me off a strip as a teenager when I showed myself above the skyline where he was stalking chub. You are correct about Clarkson though, he did Clarkson?s Comment. John Piper was another regular in that splendid magazine.
I once watched in wonder when Barrie Welham demonstrated fly casting with a salmon rod on the large weirpool in Guildford. He was invited to do so by Jeffreys, a splendid tackle shop in that town where I bought my very first hooks (to gut), Bell la Cloche line and mixed lead spilt shot in a small tin with sliding lid.
Peter Butler was a dedicated big roach man who fished the large concrete Staines reservoirs.
Didn?t Albert Oldfield gain fame with big perch form the Maccclesfield canal?
No one has mentioned the fantastic Ivan Marks and the Leicester Likely Lads. Any elderly matchmen like to comment?
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA)
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Albert Oldfield was a canal roach man Drake.
He used bread flake and large lobworms to catch his big canal roach. The technique was simple float tackle fished in the edge during the evenings.
Peter Butler was one of the men who inspired me to form the Northern Specimen Group. He was in the London Specimen Hunters Club, one of the first specimen groups along with other anglers such as Herbie Green.
Regarding Ivan Marks, this thread is essentially about the lesser known anglers who achieved great success but who either didn't persue fame or who have been forgotten in the mists of time.
I remember Ewan Clarkson most from his decriptive writing and of his fishing in Devon. He contributed to Peter Wheat's book - "An Angler's Year."
He used bread flake and large lobworms to catch his big canal roach. The technique was simple float tackle fished in the edge during the evenings.
Peter Butler was one of the men who inspired me to form the Northern Specimen Group. He was in the London Specimen Hunters Club, one of the first specimen groups along with other anglers such as Herbie Green.
Regarding Ivan Marks, this thread is essentially about the lesser known anglers who achieved great success but who either didn't persue fame or who have been forgotten in the mists of time.
I remember Ewan Clarkson most from his decriptive writing and of his fishing in Devon. He contributed to Peter Wheat's book - "An Angler's Year."
Fred Blake
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My apologies GD (see - I knew he'd pick me up on something!) Here's another one - Robin Harris, the second Englishman to win the world championships, in 1969. Had a match rod named after him, by a firm I forget; must have been shortlived, as I think he used Hardy's Matchmaker rods after they came out in '71.
Morespiders
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Fancy you remembering Albert Oldfield Ron , thought id'e tripped you up. Respect Ron.
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA)
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John Piper was involved with The Angler's Mail in the 60s. I remember having dinner one evening with John Piper and Billy Lane in the Grand Hotel in Sheffield. This was the occasion of "The National Angling Show" at the Sheffield City Hall, run by Bennetts of Sheffield.
If I remember correctly, John Piper was on the editorial staff of the magazine - "Woman", run by what became IPC magazines.
John asked me to write for The Angler's Mail on that occasion after he saw what I was doing in the Angling Telegraph. These were heady days make no mistake and I nearly gave up my full time job to go into professional journalism!
I did a whole string of articles and features for the Angler's Mail at that time, and The Angling Times too. And on top of that did my regular features for Angling Telelgraph.
And I was only 22 at the time.
If I remember correctly, John Piper was on the editorial staff of the magazine - "Woman", run by what became IPC magazines.
John asked me to write for The Angler's Mail on that occasion after he saw what I was doing in the Angling Telegraph. These were heady days make no mistake and I nearly gave up my full time job to go into professional journalism!
I did a whole string of articles and features for the Angler's Mail at that time, and The Angling Times too. And on top of that did my regular features for Angling Telelgraph.
And I was only 22 at the time.
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA)
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Oh I remember Albert Oldfield very well Spiders. He was a bailiff on the Macclesfield Canal and he used to send in a weekly report to AT on what was being caught in his area.
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Percy Anderson .... with the cigar
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA)
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Percy Anderson of Cambridge. He did a great deal for the young anglers of the area and was a big mate of **** Walker.
Another very good angler of the day was Peter Grundle. He worked at Don's of Edmonton and was as much at home in fresh or salt water frequently catching good fish in both elements.
Bill keal was killed at the side of the road, but he wasn't in a layby and nor was he mowed down so to speak. For some reason - and there was a lot of speculation between those who knew him - he stepped out into the road and was hit by a lorry. I seem to remember Peter Mead being killed in a road accident on his way home from Bill Keal's funeral.
Unfortunately Ron, a lot of anglers these days haven't heard of the most famous anglers let alone the lesser known ones. During my visit to the UK in 2004 I spoke to a number of anglers I met at fisheries and a surprising number hadn't even heard of **** Walker or FJT! When I visited David Carl Forbes' widow in Brighton we walked along one of the sea walls around a marina and she mentioned the names of several well known anglers to anglers with whom we chatted and we found the same with sea anglers. They hadn't even heard of Leslie Moncrieff!
Alan Brown was a Hitchen tackle dealer and specialist angler who also made rods, including the Jack Hilton carp rod and various stillwater fly rods.
Forgive me for mentioning it, but he also made "The Chevin" for a number of years too!
Bill keal was killed at the side of the road, but he wasn't in a layby and nor was he mowed down so to speak. For some reason - and there was a lot of speculation between those who knew him - he stepped out into the road and was hit by a lorry. I seem to remember Peter Mead being killed in a road accident on his way home from Bill Keal's funeral.
Unfortunately Ron, a lot of anglers these days haven't heard of the most famous anglers let alone the lesser known ones. During my visit to the UK in 2004 I spoke to a number of anglers I met at fisheries and a surprising number hadn't even heard of **** Walker or FJT! When I visited David Carl Forbes' widow in Brighton we walked along one of the sea walls around a marina and she mentioned the names of several well known anglers to anglers with whom we chatted and we found the same with sea anglers. They hadn't even heard of Leslie Moncrieff!
Alan Brown was a Hitchen tackle dealer and specialist angler who also made rods, including the Jack Hilton carp rod and various stillwater fly rods.
Forgive me for mentioning it, but he also made "The Chevin" for a number of years too!
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The Monk
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Fred Peter Mohan was the co-founder of the BCSG along with my good friend Eric Hodson. Peter had his application turned down for NASGs National Carp Club (founder Alan Otter), he was upset by this and Eric told him to start his own group, Peter asked Eric for help, hench the BCSG was born in 1969, however Eric didnt like the way the organisation was going and left the group shortly afterwards.
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The Monk
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Of historical interest Eric also founded the National Association of Specimen Groups based on an idea by Ron Clay while Eric also went on to found the Pike Society (1972) (Peter Mohan was wrongly listed as secretary for this organisation)which later was re-launched by Barrie Rickards, Huge Renolds and Bill Chillingworth and became the PAC (1977). Ironically Alan Otter founder of the National Carp Club in the 60s applied for BCSG membership in the 1990s and was turned down. Its very sad that many of the original Specialist groups had vetting criteria for membership, something which NASG tried to stamp out, realising it was creating barriers between anglers and not good for angling because of the divisions this was creating, thank god most organisations now have open policies for membership, angling after all is for everyone and not just a selected few, Walker once commented on the limited criteria groups as being non-existant universities who met in telephone boxes.
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA)
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One of the reasons why the Carp Catcher's Club didn't last too long mate. I was a member of the BCSG after I was invited to join by Eric Hodson. They had a strange, almost undefined set of criteria for membership.
Eric once told me his reason for leaving the BCSG, but I'll not repeat it here.
One true fact about angling in Britain is that only a very small minority actually read about it. Barrie Rickards stated this in his book - "Angling Fundamental Principles."
If there was one aspect of angling Walker detested it was snobbery, especially between coarse and game fishers. In his life he went to a lot of trouble to encourage anglers to do both kinds of fishing. Walker's great hero of course was someone most anglers will have never heard of - Hugh Tempest Sheringham.
Eric once told me his reason for leaving the BCSG, but I'll not repeat it here.
One true fact about angling in Britain is that only a very small minority actually read about it. Barrie Rickards stated this in his book - "Angling Fundamental Principles."
If there was one aspect of angling Walker detested it was snobbery, especially between coarse and game fishers. In his life he went to a lot of trouble to encourage anglers to do both kinds of fishing. Walker's great hero of course was someone most anglers will have never heard of - Hugh Tempest Sheringham.
Poshpaul (Angling Trust and PaSC)
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I stand to be corrected. Isn't Robin Harris still the only angler to be both a World Champion and have won the National (although not in the same year). I still have a Robin Harris bodied waggler - yes my floats are almost as old as the notes in my wallet.
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Fred Blake
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Dunno, but he makes exceedingly good beads...
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Theres one of his videos for sale on Amazon for ?1.63
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