new whip tip split ?

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Just a quick one , got my brand new whip today , unpackaged it ,extended it out and noticed the tip is as above,i could tear it off like a cheese string ,probably runs half way down.Do i send this back or will it make little to no difference?
Its a 0.36mm tip if it makes a difference ?

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Obviously the tip is now weakened, to what extent is unknown, get in touch with the supplier and see what they agree to do.

What a shame, what make is it and where did you buy it?
 
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Obviously the tip is now weakened, to what extent is unknown, get in touch with the supplier and see what they agree to do.

What a shame, what make is it and where did you buy it?
Yes have done now.
Its a Preston Innovations Absoloute Whip 4.5m from Benwick Sports Angling as reccomended by yourself if i remember correctly.
Hopefully customer service is on point and they can either exchange the whole whip or just send out a new tip without it being a hassle.
 
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Yes have done now.
Its a Preston Innovations Absoloute Whip 4.5m from Benwick Sports Angling as reccomended by yourself if i remember correctly.
Hopefully customer service is on point and they can either exchange the whole whip or just send out a new tip without it being a hassle.

ooooh they look good !
might get one myself
 

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ooooh they look good !
might get one myself
I havent fished for probaly 15 years so i probably couldnt tell you a good piece of tackle from a bad piece probably ,But i was shocked by how light it was and sensitive it felt. Until i saw the piece hanging off and face palmed
 

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Yes have done now.
Its a Preston Innovations Absoloute Whip 4.5m from Benwick Sports Angling as reccomended by yourself if i remember correctly.
Hopefully customer service is on point and they can either exchange the whole whip or just send out a new tip without it being a hassle.
Yes that was my reccomendation, I have that very whip. Playing a fish these tips are incredibly robust but they are also easy to splinter, very typical of carbon, even with F1 cars. I damaged one of mine just like yours when putting on a tight fitting piece of silicone tubing, I’ve since learnt to put a bit of lubricating spit in the tubing beforehand.

I’ve used Benwick many times and would be surprised if you don’t get a first class service.

I now keep a few spare generic tips which can be bought here.

Carbon & Glass tip sections - Carbon & Glass tip sections - Misc
 

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I have saved this site and will measure my Shakey Sigma Wand to see if I can get a tip I can fit. Thanks.
 

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The supplier will replace that under warranty but in my experience PI are excellent.
 

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Yes that was my reccomendation, I have that very whip. Playing a fish these tips are incredibly robust but they are also easy to splinter, very typical of carbon, even with F1 cars. I damaged one of mine just like yours when putting on a tight fitting piece of silicone tubing, I’ve since learnt to put a bit of lubricating spit in the tubing beforehand.

I’ve used Benwick many times and would be surprised if you don’t get a first class service.

I now keep a few spare generic tips which can be bought here.

Carbon & Glass tip sections - Carbon & Glass tip sections - Misc
Yes, contacted last night and they've replied today and sending me out a new tip so seem fair enough to me.

Any idea what size fish it could handle obviously depending on line etc? Or what have you personally had?
 

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Good news, keep the broken tip it may serve you ok for small silvers.

I’ve had carp and bream to 5lb but do occasionally get broken up, not always a large rogue carp doing the damage, smaller tench that think they’re Usain Bolt going off at a 100mph leaves little leeway to play with.

I’ve found when playing a strong fish to allow your wrist to be a little more forgiving sometimes allowing the tip to go under the surface following the fish as best as possible.

I mentioned in an earlier post that I will often use a 10lb mainline, a bit stiffer to reduce the chance of tangles but my hooklength won’t exceed 4lb which so far has always gone ping before the tip has!

I should add, my whip fishing is in snag free open water.
 
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I always stick my rod tip in the water if I get a carp it seems to make them less angry

My current favourite rod is a 6m fibre glass telepole but I removed 2 sections from the bottom so its really light and there is a metal ring in the tip , I found 2 rubber bungs that fit securely in the top and bottom so when I am on the canal it doesn't matter if it takes a little abuse.
 

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Good news, keep the broken tip it may serve you ok for small silvers.

I’ve had carp and bream to 5lb but do occasionally get broken up, not always a large rogue carp doing the damage, smaller tench that think they’re Usain Bolt going off at a 100mph leaves little leeway to play with.

I’ve found when playing a strong fish to allow your wrist to be a little more forgiving sometimes allowing the tip to go under the surface following the fish as best as possible.

I mentioned in an earlier post that I will often use a 10lb mainline, a bit stiffer to reduce the chance of tangles but my hooklength won’t exceed 4lb which so far has always gone ping before the tip has!

I should add, my whip fishing is in snag free open water.
Ahhh nice bit of info, think the strongest rig I have is 6lb mainline with a 5lb hook length. May grab a few stronger rigs. My fishing will all be canal though.
 

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Ahhh nice bit of info, think the strongest rig I have is 6lb mainline with a 5lb hook length. May grab a few stronger rigs. My fishing will all be canal though.
I would say that for canal fishing you can afford to go a bit lighter on the hooklength, stick with the 6lb main line though.
 

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I struggle with this, why not use a rod and reel? You can fish light, but have the ability to feed out line if needed. I can see why match anglers want to whip out as many small fish as possible in the shortest space of time, don't think it's great fishing, but understandable. Why would a pleasure angler use these tactics? If there is the possibility of hooking a decent fish, you can use skill with the rod and drag on your reel to land it, often on a very fine set up. Hook it on a whip, you snap off. Sure, use a small, weaker hooklink, but still snap off with a fish on the end.
What is the point?
 

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I struggle with this, why not use a rod and reel? You can fish light, but have the ability to feed out line if needed. I can see why match anglers want to whip out as many small fish as possible in the shortest space of time, don't think it's great fishing, but understandable. Why would a pleasure angler use these tactics? If there is the possibility of hooking a decent fish, you can use skill with the rod and drag on your reel to land it, often on a very fine set up. Hook it on a whip, you snap off. Sure, use a small, weaker hooklink, but still snap off with a fish on the end.
What is the point?
I understand your point ( I hope ) - but does that mean we should all only fish with a rod and reel in case we hook a decent fish ?
I have fished light on a pole and had some monster take me halfway across the lake and then break the hooklink - does that mean I shouldn't fish a pole light ?

Taking it to its extreme ( which you were not suggesting ) why fish light at all ?

You can land quite sizeable fish on a whip ( 5 plus tench on a canal ) todays lines are still very fine even up to a decent breaking strain.

But the real question is why fish this method at all ?
Why do people fish with antique reels ?

For the pure pleasure of it :)
you are in direct contact with the fish
you can place you bait very accurately
you dont get the shadow of a pole
you dont have to ship a pole in and out
Whips are cheap ( mine is ) and can take a lot of abuse
you can reach further with a whip
Some whips are elasticated

try it you may enjoy it :)
 

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As above, I could use rod and reel and sometimes will if the fish are beyond the range of my whip. I use the whip in a fashion similar to the pellet waggler method when targeting Rudd, feeding and casting regularly, I just find it an economic, accurate and fun way to fish.

I will say that the whips I use are extremely light both old Daiwa whips, a Harrier and a Pickering Conny, a heavier whip would remove the fun element.

It’s amazing how many carp anglers pop by and watch for a few moments and remark what a fun way of fishing it looks.
 
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They are a great way to introduce kids to fishing too. If you use an elasticated whip even a child can land surprisingly large fish without snapping up.
 

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Funny thing this whip fishing, I only use a whip in cold weather for small fish. My choice, if others want to use them differently that's their choice.
My idea of whip fishing is by using a flick tip, elasticising a whip is turning a whip into a pole.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, but if I needed a 4mtr pole I'd buy a 4mtr beastmaster at around £40.
Folk buy tackle and use it as they like, and all power to them.
Personally I have an aversion to elasicating a whip, I'll stick with my ethos, such as it is
 

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Looking back at the post i made in this thread, i apologise if it seemed offhand.
I've never fished with a whip or pole, I looked into getting them for the kids, but decided that the chance of them hooking into something sizeable was too great. I thought they would have more chance of landing with a reel, with drag, than without.
I've snapped off a few times lately due to hooking carp when not targeting them, what do you do when using a whip? I ask this question out of pure curiosity from never having used one. We all get set in our ways and I'm scared to get one because I can't think of anywhere I fish that does not have the chance of hitting into a big lump.
 
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