The 50lber – Let’s see the doubters’ ‘proof’!

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eddiebenham

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Just remind me for the avoidance of any doubt in this story....

1) Did MG visit Canada?
2) Did he catch any carp when he was there?
3) When was the photo actually taken?
Hi Fishface.

1. Yes, Martin and Yvonne visited Canada between the 18/19 th., June and 5/6 th., July 1989. According to Robin Monday he fished together with Martin on 16th. and 17th. June and then Martin went on holiday to Canada. Robin said the Martin was away for two and a half weeks. So Martin could have caught his carp on the 6th., 7th., 8th., or 9th., July. having returned from Canada but still on holiday before returning to work on Monday the 10 th. Martin phoned Robin Monday on Sunday 9th. to tell him of his catches and Martin showed me the photo on the evening of Tuesday 11th before showing it to Robin the following weekend. That evening Martin had open sores on his knuckles caused by a back spinning reel so that fits in with the timescale.

2. As far as I know Martin did not fish in Canada. His holiday/s there were to visit family not fish. I fished with Martin quite a few times. Johnsons in Kent, Sandy Balls on the Avon, Ricketts Mere, the Ockendon Lakes, and a Reserviour somewhere. He invited me on a trip to catch Nile Perch and although I didn't go he did. We use to meet up for chats and he also went to our Committee Meetings held on a Tuesday once a month.
He also socialised with my wife and I and would often turn up, particularly in the Close Season, for a game of Billiards with my two sons.
I knew Martin from the 1960's and he never ever mentioned fishing in Canada.

3. The photo must have been taken between the 6th. and the 9th. July 1989. I calculated that it was either the 7th. or the 8th.
He told me that he got the photos developed in Boots the Chemist of all places.
 

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As, other than metaphorically, completely disappearing up ones own rectum isn't actually possible, I'm sad to say there is only one way that this will ever really end. I reckon that it might all be all done and dusted in no more than thirty years.
Hi Sam.............................Please God no not 30 years. I'll be 107 by then.
 

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Away you avoided the question It is well documented that Martin visited Canada
You opinion is that he did not fish in Canada
There is a lot of convincing opinion on various fora that he did
If MG did fish in Canada it's news to me, Benny. In the 34 years I knew Martin and during the countless days we spent fishing together AND the dozens of evenings spent in the company of Martin and his wife, I never once heard him say he'd fished in Canada. If you know differently - fine.
 

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So if someone is interested enough to get involved with your thread and you don't agree you dismiss them as a nutter
benny.....................you are right to point this out but I did not dismiss them as a nutter, I referred to Terry thinking he was a nutter. However, when I eventually I turned up the paperwork, dated January 2016, I could see that he did not say that at all but that it was me who had drawn that conclusion.
My mistake, I was incorrect and I will now withdraw that comment from my post.
My apologies to all.
 

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Benny: I've informed Eddie that I've deleted his post regarding Phil. I,too, felt it inappropriate. For this reason I've deleted your complaint too because it incorporates the quote from Eddie. It must be said though that Philip asked Eddie about the E mails from Lennox - and he got his answer!
 

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If MG did fish in Canada it's news to me, Benny. In the 34 years I knew Martin and during the countless days we spent fishing together AND the dozens of evenings spent in the company of Martin and his wife, I never once heard him say he'd fished in Canada. If you know differently - fine.
I said visited - you said fished I didn't
I said there are differing opinions about whether he fished or not

I this kind of thing you need to be precise
 

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I've informed Eddie that I've deleted his post regarding Phil. I,too, felt it inappropriate. For this reason I've deleted your complaint too because it incorporates the quote from Eddie. It must be said though that Philip asked Eddie about the E mails from Lennox - and he got his answer!
No I didnt ask Eddie about Emails from Lennox !!!! Its unbelievable. Do either of you check basic FACTS before you type ?

Point in case and for the record, here you go Eddie, its rather embarrassing for you I am afraid but we already discussed Terry in great depth publicly on FM were I even told you I called him. Look here ;


Martin Gay's Historic Carp Captures - THIS is 'Overwhelming Evidence'...


PS - sorry to the other posters for whom this exchange wll not make much sense & follows an error in Judgement from Mr Benham. I see he has apologized and for me the matter is now closed.

We can return to arguing about everything else :)
 
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