There is nothing in their manifesto about banning angling, dissuading people from it by education but not banning it, so we will have the choice. Some think they will ban it once in power, its unlikely they will get in power for a very long time so, I am not worried about that for a long time, and I think they will be the same as all other parties, will see too many lost votes in it by banning it.I agree with your disgust,but this shit wont change,the green party are a non starter,just like the liberal democrats and crazy raving monster loony party,they look good on paper until small print is read,being anti angling doesnt help get my vote which I seemed to read was a part of their future programme...maybe not but...
In a way but we have to weigh up, crime, The NHS, Immigration, economy etc when voting for anything, the voter can't be blamed for what the water companies are doing or trying to do. They are trying it on and we shouldn't be distracted by that or accept it as a byproduct of any economical restraints. If there was huge profits to be had they would find those drivers in no time and pay them accordingly.I agree it is not red v blue, hence my point about 'every' government could make the EA a serious proposition for polluters.
However, we vote for the parties that do these things. We put them in power. They pump sh1t into our rivers. We sit by and watch, then vote them in again next time. It's on us.
Sorry, its not Brexit's fault, the pollution of rivers has been going on for a long time, including when we where in the EU, I don't disagree with you that not all possible problems were foreseen and planned for but, that's the way it is. Particularly, one shortage of a chemical and its knee jerk reaction to it is not the cause of river pollution. We will just have to solve these problems and get through them and we will.Well Mark, the reason I blame B***** is because it's B*****'s fault . . . as to the future, well, we'll see . . . . but right now there are so many problems to deal with and even things like raw sewage being dicharged into the rivers is due to a shortage of imported products . . if all this was "foreseeable" then why were alternative suppliesm and suppliers, not sourced long before now. For crying out aloud, we had 5 years of lead time . . .
Ha, maybe but I like to think I am more a pragmatist, solving problems and seeing what might work is more my thing, but we will have to agree to disagree on that as well if you like.Mark, you are a politician's dream . . an optimistic idealist . . . we will agree to disagree.
Trying it on? They are pumping raw sh1t into our rivers. They have gone well behind the trying it on stage. They do it in broad daylight and don't even try to hide it now. Sure there will be more 'record' fines, next year or the year after, but dividends and bonuses will still be paid.In a way but we have to weigh up, crime, The NHS, Immigration, economy etc when voting for anything, the voter can't be blamed for what the water companies are doing or trying to do. They are trying it on and we shouldn't be distracted by that or accept it as a byproduct of any economical restraints. If there was huge profits to be had they would find those drivers in no time and pay them accordingly.
Agreed but they got the Brexit excuse now and the political debate that ensues to distract from their heinous practises.Trying it on? They are pumping raw sh1t into our rivers. They have gone well behind the trying it on stage. They do it in broad daylight and don't even try to hide it now. Sure there will be more 'record' fines, next year or the year after, but dividends and bonuses will still be paid.
Couldn't agree more.Agreed but they got the Brexit excuse now and the political debate that ensues to distract from their heinous practises.
Judging by many of the posts on this thread it seems to be working.
Raw sh1t is being poured into our rivers on a daily basis, up and down the country, often without without punishment for offenders. The water companies make astronomical sums of money out of the British taxpayer, despite the fact they are often the worst polluters in the country. That's a fact, not a conspiracy.Ah , wondering when it would be the MSM fault - cue links to random conspiracy theory websites ?
Sorry, with respect, I think that's wrong. Aside from about 5 years we've had majority govts for the last 40 years. Any one of them could have put sufficient legislation in place to properly combat this. But they didn't.Not Brexit,not Boris,but lawyers who have found loopholes in the infrastructure protecting their multi million pound clientel,otherwise someone would have been at them by now....