A Handling Code

[STEVE POPE]

Hi Lee,

I'm going to second Tony's last post, your input would be hugely appreciated, you have one of the "best" minds on the scene.

Some excellent points have been raised already and they have all been noted.

 

[Lee Fletcher 1]

Dear Tony,

Many thanks. Hows the fishing? I'm stuck painting the house and I loathe it. Her in doors says its got to be done before Christmas. Nearly done then I've got to lay the new hallway floor!! Hope it doesn't rain a lot before I get finished.

Dear Steve,

I've registered on the BS site after going through the alphagramatic thingy bob for ages until it sunk in my daft builders head! I now await an audience with the "administrator" before I can post. In the meantime, I've sent you an email with just a couple of ideas. The full list might follow in paper back. Or volumes 1-12!

Regards,

Lee.

 

[EC]

As an occasional barbel angler, and one who rarely uses a keepnet but would like the choice to do so in what I consider appropriate circumstances, it seems that common sense is now finally prevailing.

I think that we/you need to be careful to avoid some specifics ie 1 barbel per keepnet etc, not that I wholeheartedly disagree with that statement, just to reiterate that it might come across to laymen like myself as having an almost 'dictatorial' tone, other than that it seems like you are on the right track.

Lee Fletcher, set your house on fire* tomorrow and rest assured you will never be trusted to decorate again!


*Taps nose

 

[mattzzzzzz]

Lee-
I did that to on the BS page,confusing isn't it?

Regards Matt

 

[Chris Pearson]

Bob must be turning in his er-bed,he's only got Tone and Lee on best mate terms-kinell.

 

[The Master]

Chris such a shame you have not as yet made one constructive comment on this whole issue.

 

[Chris Pearson]

Dear "Master",
Oh here we go,wondered when you were going to raise your head above the parapet to have another pop,I'll await your e-mail response.

If you're referring to B2B's article I don't feel it merits a "constructive"response,if Fred's IMHO best left to people like Steve and Paul et al who are far more experienced than me on the issue and in the appropriate place i.e. BS committee.
I happen to have full confidence in them and therefore don't feel the need to offer my two pennyworth ,can I take it you don't and would prefer BS policy to be shaped on here by Bob?
I did however feel that a condensed "FM" Handling Code available to a wider audience would have been a great idea but unfortunately I was in a minority of 1,Grahams perogative, and he's the boss on here so I respect that.
However if you're interested,don't have a keepnet and haven't owned one for over 20 years,happy now or can I expect a another barage?

 

[Bob Roberts]

For someone who doesn't feel the subject merits a constructive response and doesn't feel the need to offer his two pennyworth you've made an awful lot of posts on the matter.

And this one, ignoring your insulting behaviour towards a fellow member who happens to know a bit about barbel fishing, is the first that has come close to being on-topic.

Well done!

 

[Chris Pearson]

Perhaps if you re-read my post you will see that I didn't actually say the "subject" doesn't deserve a response,what I did say was that in my opinion your article didn't merit a "constructive response",and it doesn't.

If you had seen the offensive e-mails sent to me by "The Master" which you haven't, and knew why like you, he also has a hidden agenda against me and the other "2 Amigos's" which you don't, then perhaps you might have understood my "insulting " comments, which you don't.
As usual you feel it necessary to have another dig when you have absolutely no idea of the actual facts of the matter.
Really can't see why it's "insulting behaviour" to suggest that a BS member that he allows his elected committee members to resolve their issue in their way on their forum but then you wouldn't agree with that,would you.
Perhaps I should just keep my head down when the likes of you and him decide to have a pop at me, in the hope that one day you'll find another target but unfortunately that's not the nature of the beast,never have walked away from bullies,never will.

 

[GrahamM]

Anyway, back to the topic.

I see that someone on the BS forum says that a barbel handling code has got nothing to do with us on Fishingmagic. It's a pity that, because all that most of us want to do on here is offer some constructive criticisms and suggestions. We don't want it to be an FM Handling Code or anything other than a Barbel Handling Code that gives the best recommendations possible to all barbel anglers.

If I may offer a small criticism of some of the BS members it's that they think that such a code should be theirs to construct and administer exclusively, when it should belong to all barbel anglers. After all, it is the fish we're doing it for, not the anglers.

 

[Tony Rocca]

I wouldnt disagree with anything you said there Graham, just because someone is a BS member doesnt mean they dont have an opinion of their own though. Good debate going on there I think.
It all helps doesnt it.

 

[jason fisher]

I see that someone on the BS forum says that a barbel handling code has got nothing to do with us on Fishingmagic.

thats alright then i wont bother reading it or using it either then.

not that i would have paid any attention to it as it comes from the barbel police.

 

[GrahamM]

Tony, granted, everybody is entitled to an opinion and the more that offer some input the closer we'll get to the best handling code we can get. I've read some of the thread on the BS site and the majority of the comments are excellent. But then, so are most of the comments on here! But then I'm biased.

 

[Tony Rocca]

I wouldnt disagree with that either Graham, some good folks on here and good opinion, and Bob.

 

[Fred Bonney]

Oh come on Jason,it's reactions like yours,even if they are windups, don't progress anything.

 

[jason fisher]

im sorry fred but i have never yet seen the barbel society do anything good for fishing or for barbel for that matter.

Take the PAC as an example and then see how a real society should work.

the barbel society as a whole gives out an air of self righteous elitism, not the people in it, the ones whom i have met have all been excelent people but the society as a whole.

as such i will not pay any attention to the barbel society, if however a handling code was developed on this forum i would pay it a lot of attention, the reason being it would have been developed by people who i know know what they are talking about.

 

[EC]

I believe we need to look at the bigger picture, and that a handling code for barbel should be just one part of a larger, all encompassing 'fish handling code' with specific advice/guidance for each species. As one size does not fit all with regards to unhooking and looking after the fish we catch, nor is one species more worthy than another, some need different care yes, but none are more worthy.

An all singing, all dancing 'official' guide could easily be produced so long as the major players, NFA, EA and elected reps from specialist, match (game and sea?) circles, show a bit of foresight and common sense with the sole agenda being the welfare of the fish we catch. Possibly this could be led by the press, BS, FM whoever.

That way, we have an almost universally agreed approach for each individual fish. From which could come a simple leaflet explaining fish care for each individual species, this could go on every shop counter, in every magazine, and be included with every licence sold.

With no political agenda, and all groups being represented by their officials then no one need feel they are being dictated to, and no one gets left out!

 

[Fred Bonney]

Amen to that..

 

[The Master]

Oh Dear Dear Chris what a very very sad person you are.

I call people like you snipers you browse the forums hit back with unconstuctive one line comments.

Yes I too have full confidence with BS commitee men like Steve and Paul and others but all of them to a man will agree that

1 The Barbel society is nothing without its members

2 They do not know everything about barbel fishing

3 They need constructive comment good or bad if the society is going to go forward with what are major issues.

So lets get on with it and stop the silly name calling for the sake of the future of the Barbel not bloddy hazelford wier or so called offensive E mails that water passed under the bridge a long time ago for me.

 

[Matt Brown]

Eddie, it's been done. I have copy of the National Angling Alliance - Code Of Conduct For Coarse Anglers.

Jason, The BS is made up of all sorts of anglers including a few Barbel Police but mainly just good, keen anglers. I think many people within the BS realise that a more open image would be a move forward.

I'm glad I'm a member and I think things are going fairly well.

Look at this months issue of CF and you'll see Neil Whayte (I don't know if Neil is a member), Tony Miles (Tony was at the BS conference, so I assume he's a member) and Steve Pope all writing about Barbel welfare. Steve in particular has done much of late, especially with Angling Times.

All this press influences people. Some more than others but the more the message is out there the more it will stick.