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nottskev

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I don't think fishing fits into any of these reasons for going out

Shopping for necessities, as infrequently as possible;
One form of exercise a day, such as running or cycling, alone or with household members;
For medical or care needs, for example to help a vulnerable person;
Travelling to and from work, but only if you cannot work from home.
 

S-Kippy

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Sadly I agree. I guess a few lucky individuals will have access to waters that dont breach the rules on non essential travel but for most of us I think its off for the forseeable.

As the main food shopper until I was tagged "high risk" I have to say Ishopping is something I'm not going to miss given the lunacy that's still going on.
 
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Aknib

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I guess a few lucky individuals will have access to waters that dont breach the rules on non essential travel but for most of us I think its off for the forseeable.
I fell into that category until last Thursday when an inguinal hernia decided to rear its ugly head.

What timing!

I reckon I'm in for a good twelve months of pain before I can think, or even want, to get that looked at.
 

mikench

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Sadly I agree that fishing is out for the foreseeable which will upset me greatly . Even a blank is preferable to not going. Ah well we can all feel pious in helping humanity . Stay well.

Ps how long do maggots keep


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S-Kippy

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I’ve never been obsessive about my fishing so this enforced lay off is a nuisance to me but no more. Given the reasons for it, it really don’t count for diddly. I wonder how others less pragmatic about their fishing are going to cope ?
 

mikench

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My late father in law used to say that everything matters but nothing matters frightfully. I'm sure the fish will enjoy their isolation more than we.

Nows the time to get out my curry cook books.
 

john step

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Thats the niggle about it. Those idiots who brought these stricter rules in place have loused things up for others who were actually being careful and keeping distance from others.
Obviously fishing is not essential. However there is a vast difference from fishing a busy fishery where you have to pay a bailiff and fish near others than to fish a remote lake where you dont see another soul let alone get close enough to speak to them.

I can literally drive or cycle half a mile to one such water. Thanks idiots.
 

lambert1

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Social distancing is the real issue here. Even the shopping for essentials will be a real problem if people have a very wide category of "essentials" and continue to buy in large amounts. The supermarkets still cannot control the idiots. Some of the most flagrant breeches of social distancing have been at the supermarkets.
 

steve2

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While my club websites show a shut down my local commercials, unless they haven't got round to updating, still appear to be open as normal.
 

mikench

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One of my clubs websites are still showing the Christmas opening times HQ and prize fishery. The virus will be a distant memory I reckon when they update.
 

mikench

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Whatever your take on corona & however you are currently (or are about to be) affected by it & all it’s unimaginable repercussions..... please read these words by Bill Gates & then take some time to truly reflect!

Takes a bit of time to read it all but well worth it and very thought provoking !
Bill Gates, 64 - who donated £85 million to combat the virus last month - believes that despite the chaos, there is 'a spiritual purpose behind everything that happens'.
In an open letter, entitled 'What is the Corona/ Covid-19 Virus Really Teaching us?', he wrote:
'A SPIRITUAL PURPOSE'
"I’m a strong believer that there is a spiritual purpose behind everything that happens, whether that is what we perceive as being good or being bad.
"As I meditate upon this, I want to share with you what I feel the Corona/ Covid-19 virus is really doing to us. 1) It is reminding us that we are all equal, regardless of our culture, religion, occupation, financial situation or how famous we are. This disease treats us all equally, perhaps we should to.
If you don’t believe me, just ask Tom Hanks.
2) It is reminding us that we are all connected and something that affects one person has an effect on another.
It is reminding us that the false borders that we have put up have little value as this virus does not need a passport.
It is reminding us, by oppressing us for a short time, of those in this world whose whole life is spent in oppression.
3) It is reminding us of how precious our health is and how we have moved to neglect it through eating nutrient poor manufactured food and drinking water that is contaminated with chemicals upon chemicals.
If we don’t look after our health, we will, of course, get sick.
4) It is reminding us of the shortness of life and of what is most important for us to do, which is to help each other, especially those who are old or sick.
Our purpose is not to buy toilet roll.
5) It is reminding us of how materialistic our society has become and how, when in times of difficulty, we remember that it’s the essentials that we need (food, water, medicine) as opposed to the luxuries that we sometimes unnecessarily give value to.
6) It is reminding us of how important our family and home life is and how much we have neglected this.
It is forcing us back into our houses so we can rebuild them into our home and to strengthen our family unit.
'OUR TRUE WORK'
7) It is reminding us that our true work is not our job, that is what we do, not what we were created to do.
Our true work is to look after each other, to protect each other and to be of benefit to one another.
It is reminding us to keep our egos in check.
It is reminding us that no matter how great we think we are or how great others think we are, a virus can bring our world to a standstill.
9) It is reminding us that the power of freewill is in our hands.
We can choose to cooperate and help each other, to share, to give, to help and to support each other or we can choose to be selfish, to hoard, to look after only our self.
Indeed, it is difficulties that bring out our true colours.
10) It is reminding us that we can be patient, or we can panic.
We can either understand that this type of situation has happened many times before in history and will pass, or we can panic and see it as the end of the world and, consequently, cause ourselves more harm than good.
11) It is reminding us that this can either be an end or a new beginning.
This can be a time of reflection and understanding, where we learn from our mistakes, or it can be the start of a cycle which will continue until we finally learn the lesson we are meant to.
12) It is reminding us that this Earth is sick.
It is reminding us that we need to look at the rate of deforestation just as urgently as we look at the speed at which toilet rolls are disappearing off of shelves. We are sick because our home is sick.
13) It is reminding us that after every difficulty, there is always ease.
Life is cyclical, and this is just a phase in this great cycle. We do not need to panic; this too shall pass.
14) Whereas many see the Corona/ Covid-19 virus as a great disaster, I prefer to see it as a *great corrector*
It is sent to remind us of the important lessons that we seem to have forgotten and it is up to us if we will learn them or not.


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mikench

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Doctors are being warned about mugging of NHS staff entering and leaving hospitals for their ID tags presumably so the brainless scumbags who would do this can get priority in supermarkets and the like. They could never pass themselves off as medics..

In addition further scumbags are going round coughing in people's faces.

In these unprecedented times can we not bring back, if only temporarily, capital punishment for the perpetrators. I continue to despair .
 

steve2

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Is it just me, I am finding this all a self-isolation, stay at home. don't travel,information all a bit disjointed. I just been told that all Lea Valley Fisheries are open as normal along with the parks. My fishing clubs waters have shut down along with the country parks but all local parks are open as usual. Can some sort just what we can and can't do.
If I drive the 30 miles to fish the Lea Valley is that an essential journey. It would seem that the answer to can you still go fishing is yes.
 

nottskev

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This business of can we fish or not...... I think the spirit of the instruction was clearly to restrict ourselves to essential business or purposes, and that means, as far as I'm concerned, we should put up with not fishing, frustrating as it is.

People poking around for loopholes, exceptions and ambiguities are making the thin end of a wedge that will threaten to give us the worst of all worlds - all kinds of restrictions and privations with a significant minority still travelling around doing whatever they please.

I've read anglers posting - not on here - that fishing should be exempt for all kinds of reasons - solitary, healthy, involves exercise etc. And golfers can say the same. And surfers. and ramblers and hillwalkers. And ornithologists. And everybody else with an outdoor hobby.

It doesn't matter to me that some people will find a way around any rule; the latest instructions and the needs of the moment mean that I couldn't go off fishing for the day in good conscience.
 

steve2

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I have no intention to go fishing but when you read that fisheries are are allowed to open as normal it makes you wonder why are they.
 

tigger

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Sadly I agree that fishing is out for the foreseeable which will upset me greatly . Even a blank is preferable to not going. Ah well we can all feel pious in helping humanity . Stay well.

Ps how long do maggots keep


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If you keep the maggots in a fridge on high to keep them just from gcraking they will/ can last for a few weeks. If at the end of that they've shrunk and don't look to tropical for the hook you can use them as feed.
I very often use maggots i've had a month or more with god effect.
 
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