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I wouldn't say that, it's just a plain fact that the larger the gap between the spool and backplate the more chance it will allow line between the two.

How does the Sheffield fare on this point Ian? I cannot see any discernible gap!:)
 

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I've never had any problems with line going behind the spool on my Sheffield.

I would have thought that there is less chance of getting line behind the spool on a bearing pin anyway as you don't need to hold the reel horizontally when trotting like on true pins; so gravity won't usually cause too much of a problem (only sideways wind), as long as the gap isn't too big of course.

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I've never had any problems with line going behind the spool on my Sheffield.

I would have thought that there is less chance of getting line behind the spool on a bearing pin anyway as you don't need to hold the reel horizontally when trotting like on true pins; so gravity won't usually cause too much of a problem (only sideways wind), as long as the gap isn't too big of course.

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The Sheffield tolerances are very good, the only problem I encountered once was line trapped behind check knob.

If you look at the £30 reels you will see a huge gap between spool and plate. Check fell apart on the one I bought to - the cheap reel that is.

Have a Match Aerial too - that's pretty good.
 

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The Sheffield tolerances are very good, the only problem I encountered once was line trapped behind check knob.

If you look at the £30 reels you will see a huge gap between spool and plate. Check fell apart on the one I bought to - the cheap reel that is.

Have a Match Aerial too - that's pretty good.


What £30 reels are you talking about? At what price does the gap become acceptable?
 

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I wouldn't say that, it's just a plain fact that the larger the gap between the spool and backplate the more chance it will allow line between the two.


I'd say the line guard is more to help prevent the line blowing around the back of the reel (round the foot) but it may well help stop it from slipping behind the spool. I think you'll be ok with your reel, it's a decent reel ;).

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How does the Sheffield fare on this point Ian? I cannot see any discernible gap!:)

I can only say that i've used my sheffield hundreds of times and in all honesty I can't ever remember my line getting stuck behind the spool. The okumas are superb reels imo.
 

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Having read the article by Jeff Woodhouse on pins I plan to put about 50 yards of line on. Maths is not my strong suite but I reckon the internal diameter of the spool is 3.25 inches. So using his formula and multiplying by pi ie 3.14 I reckon it will take 176 turns of the reel to put 50 yards on!:)

Does that sound about right or have I got it hopelessly wrong:(

All advise gratefully received!!:)
 

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Having read the article by Jeff Woodhouse on pins I plan to put about 50 yards of line on. Maths is not my strong suite but I reckon the internal diameter of the spool is 3.25 inches. So using his formula and multiplying by pi ie 3.14 I reckon it will take 176 turns of the reel to put 50 yards on!:)

Does that sound about right or have I got it hopelessly wrong:(

All advise gratefully received!!:)

Depending on where your fishing Mike i'd go at least 70yds. If you want to get the exact right amount on just tie the line to your reel and walk off the distance you want and then wind on as you walk back, or cut the line at the spool and wind in.
I just know how much i've put on now as i've done it that many times lol.
Once you get used to doing it only takes several minutes to spool up a reel.

Oh, if you can keep a spool of line in the car (or in your bag) incase you loose line and need to re-spool some more...it can happen!
 

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Having read the article by Jeff Woodhouse on pins I plan to put about 50 yards of line on. Maths is not my strong suite but I reckon the internal diameter of the spool is 3.25 inches. So using his formula and multiplying by pi ie 3.14 I reckon it will take 176 turns of the reel to put 50 yards on!:)

Does that sound about right or have I got it hopelessly wrong:(

All advise gratefully received!!:)

Are you fortunate enough to have a fairly long garden?
 

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Having read the article by Jeff Woodhouse on pins I plan to put about 50 yards of line on. Maths is not my strong suite but I reckon the internal diameter of the spool is 3.25 inches. So using his formula and multiplying by pi ie 3.14 I reckon it will take 176 turns of the reel to put 50 yards on!:)

Does that sound about right or have I got it hopelessly wrong:(

All advise gratefully received!!:)

That's about the size of it, Mike.:)
 

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Are you fortunate enough to have a fairly long garden?

No. The rear and front gardens are about 30 yards. I will have ago . It's only line:) practice makes perfect!!;)

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Depending on where your fishing Mike i'd go at least 70yds. If you want to get the exact right amount on just tie the line to your reel and walk off the distance you want and then wind on as you walk back, or cut the line at the spool and wind in.
I just know how much i've put on now as i've done it that many times lol.
Once you get used to doing it only takes several minutes to spool up a reel.

Oh, if you can keep a spool of line in the car (or in your bag) incase you loose line and need to re-spool some more...it can happen!

I will give the Dane a go first near Holmes Chapel . I have no idea what it is like but raging deep torrent it is not!:rolleyes:
 

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I will give the Dane a go first near Holmes Chapel . I have no idea what it is like but raging deep torrent it is not!:rolleyes:


Yeah, you'll be fine there, I fish it now and again :).
 

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Here's how to do do it, wind on a 100yd spool of your chosen line, then holding
the rod in your right hand with the reel vertical, with your left hand take hold of the of the line and pull to your left till your left arm is fully extended, this approximately 1 yd, doing this 25 times will leave you with 75 yds on the reel.
What you cut off,rewind on to empty spool for hook lengths, works for me.

ATB Macko
 

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What £30 reels are you talking about? At what price does the gap become acceptable?

They are actually around £38.99 and I'm sure you know perfectly well what the branding is.

The price gap connection occurred because some of the more expensive ones are manufactured to finer tolerances. Nobody is asserting that all pricey reels are good, but the general opinion is that Match Aerials and Sheffields are very well made.

My experience with the cheap reel was that the check fell apart before I used it. The line frequently jammed behind the spool, and the check was very loose and was all to easy to click on/off when you didn't want it to. That is my experience and in accord with many other reviews.
 

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Having read the article by Jeff Woodhouse on pins I plan to put about 50 yards of line on. Maths is not my strong suite but I reckon the internal diameter of the spool is 3.25 inches. So using his formula and multiplying by pi ie 3.14 I reckon it will take 176 turns of the reel to put 50 yards on!:)

Does that sound about right or have I got it hopelessly wrong:(

All advise gratefully received!!:)

looks about correct, fifty yards and a long trot and you might be in trouble if you hook a barbel.

With my four inch I reckoned a foot per turn. 4 * 3.1 ish
 

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The price gap connection occurred because some of the more expensive ones are manufactured to finer tolerances.

Once a CNC machine is set up it costs no more to produce fine tolerances than it does wide tolerances, it is a fact that a good CNC will produce finer tolerances than the human hand/ eye ever will.
 

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Once a CNC machine is set up it costs no more to produce fine tolerances than it does wide tolerances, it is a fact that a good CNC will produce finer tolerances than the human hand/ eye ever will.

I'm not in a position to speak about what manufacturers do in the far east. Why that particular reel is made with a visible gap between spool and back plate rim I can't say. Set up cost? How much is the manufacturer earning on a reel retailing at £38.99?

You find the same problem with some fly reels - one large shop told me it didn't matter because the leader never went on the spool!

Mine do.

Ah well you ought to remove them at the day's end.
 

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Centrepin snobbery? I wish I could afford to suffer from it.
No just bad early experience. My first pin was a 5" Leeds type from Bennett of Sheffield. I actually have fond memories of it because it certainly galloped away like a good 'un. Trouble was the retaining nut on the backplate used to fall off! And the aforementioned line problem.
Since then I have only looked for two features on a pin, it's free runnng and the gap between the spool and backplate is made to a fine tolerance. Using this criteria I have enjoyed many years of relatively trouble free pin fishing.
Believe you me if the £30 specials were fit for purpose I would have bought the lot. But they aint, and it's not relevant to keep pointing out that CNC machining CAN achieve superfine tolerances. The relevant point is on the cheaper Chinese reels they DON'T.
Each to their own however, I'll stick with what I know.
All the best.
 

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looks about correct, fifty yards and a long trot and you might be in trouble if you hook a barbel.

With my four inch I reckoned a foot per turn. 4 * 3.1 ish

Chance would be a fine thing!;) I would be delighted to admit to losing a nice barbel because I had run out of line;)
 
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