Drennan or Cadence?

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I was checking on where Cadence rods were made, design and devolvement in the UK and according to google "Made in the UK!" that was a surprise.... really! I thought. As for Drennan design and development in the UK construction somewhere in Europe but also have a factory in Mauritius.
The label which was attached to the rod says made in China.
 

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Strangely all the fish I've caught on my Cadence gear never once appeared to care whether it was Chinese or not, also, I don't feel the finish is any different to many other rods on the market, but I only fish with what I consider to be quality tackle, the acolytes have poor actions for my applications and as such are next to useless for me, but Hugh and I know a bloody good angler who swears by them, all I can say is it probably isn't any use asking on a forum what a good rod is, as it simply compounds your problems...
 

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Just to add to my last post, each individual angler has an action profile preference for their rods, be it float, feeder, or specialist rods, imo Acolyte rods, that's the Ultra and Plus don't have the best casting action, for the same reason I mentioned earlier about fish playing, they have less power in the mid-section than traditional float rods, which I believe was lost in favour of fractions of ounces, my Acolyte Ultra 13ft is OK, but not in comparison to my Cadence number 2 13ft and rarely gets an outing now, it is like using a Harrison Torrix 12ft 1.75lb tc for long range big pit tenching, it is too slow in the middle for that, you need a faster taper for that usage, however, go on a normal river(ie not the Trent) and then it's fish playing action is spot on, horses for courses for me, not prettiness, just practicality....
 
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Not made in Europe and not made in Mauritius. No-one has ever said that they are/were
 

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, imo Acolyte rods, that's the Ultra and Plus don't have the best casting action, for the same reason I mentioned earlier about fish playing, they have less power in the mid-section than traditional float rods, which I believe was lost in favour of fractions of ounces,
Nope. They were designed and made with the actions they have because that's what was wanted....not simply to use a fraction less material to reduce weight
 

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Er..no and no. And it doesn't matter anyway. What matters is what it is and what it does

Some of us prefer not to buy anything made wholly in China (and Russia, although that's not a hotbed of manufacturing).

It's unavoidable with a lot of products, especially those with multiple components, but country of origin matters to me and I'd even pay more to avoid propping up a totalitarian regime that rips off hard-earned and valuable intellectual property, and holds half of Africa to ransom through indebtedness.

I don't care what others think, by the way, so I'm not interested in a discussion, just presenting a counterpoint to your comment. ;)
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Nope. They were designed and made with the actions they have because that's what was wanted....not simply to use a fraction less material to reduce weight

I see Richard, they chose to go against more normal match rod actions then, not the best imo, but loads have been sold....
 
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I see Richard, they chose to go against more normal match rod actions then, not the best imo, but loads have been sold....
Yes and no I guess. What is 'normal' ? No such thing.

They followed a tried, tested and proven route of the rods which went before them. And, yes as you say, sales volume speaks
 

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My plus is excellent imo for casting, playing and landing fish and I take it every time I go if I float fish. It has never let me down. I bought it off the master ( he had 4) over 6 years ago and I watched him hit and hold good sized barbel on the Ribble without much trouble.
 

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I am not saying you can't catch fish on them, I've had loads of decent fish on my Ultra, however, I maintain, it isn't the right action imho, and I have different experiences on actions of match/float rods than Richard and very few are like Acolytes in my experience, as for Ian being the master, that he may be, but he ended up using Browning Sphere's last I heard, its how he fishes not the rod itself, but the rod makes it more pleasurable and/or more efficient, Ian could catch those barbel on garden canes, if the barbel didn't break em 🤣😂🤣
 

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Ian had more high end rods than AD and used a good variety like Daiwa Tournament. Spheres , Hardy and Drennan all of which he held in high and similar regard. He loved quality gear and looked after it fastidiously.
 

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He certainly did, I think the Acolytes are good rods, but not quite what I wanted, strangely the Sphere is faster actioned than any of the rods I've seen in recent years...
 

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I was checking on where Cadence rods were made, design and devolvement in the UK and according to google "Made in the UK!" that was a surprise.... really! I thought. Also Drennan design and development is in the UK construction somewhere in Europe but also have a factory in Mauritius according to google.
Drennan design and development is in Oxford , it wasn't far from me when I lived there .
I know a member of the design and development team .
 

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If you want a light ,13' rod , try and source a Daiwa SR3 . As far as I am aware they are lighter than the modern top end Daiwas .
I had the SR3 power waggler , was confident of landing rogue carp if I watched into one without it breaking .
 

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He certainly did, I think the Acolytes are good rods, but not quite what I wanted, strangely the Sphere is faster actioned than any of the rods I've seen in recent years...
If you mean the spliced-tip Sphere River rods then I definitely agree. Brilliant fast tip-action for hitting sharp bites when used with a line that isn't too stretchy, but mellow enough to avoid bumps and pulls. Aligned with a stiff-ish middle that makes flicking a light float out and line pick-up absolutely effortless yet with enough grunt to handle decent fish makes them a pinnacle of float rod design IMO.
Can't believe they stopped making them and really glad I've got four.
 

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If you mean the spliced-tip Sphere River rods then I definitely agree. Brilliant fast tip-action for hitting sharp bites when used with a line that isn't too stretchy, but mellow enough to avoid bumps and pulls. Aligned with a stiff-ish middle that makes flicking a light float out and line pick-up absolutely effortless yet with enough grunt to handle decent fish makes them a pinnacle of float rod design IMO.
Can't believe they stopped making them and really glad I've got four.
Nice rods but maybe overpriced when I worked in the trade we had a couple but had to mark them right down to around £200 to clear them. From memory the finish wasn't great and the handle was marmite.
 
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