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Del Jarman
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Roders/Bepe. NO mate the clue was before that.
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Rodney Wrestt
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Ahhh,
Victor....I hope...cause I've read it over and over and apart from the Doh (Homer, sorry) it's the only other one I can see. I can't even use the I'm tired excuse...cause it would sound lame and like I'm trying to make an excuse.......wait....I'm babling, that means I must be tired. Yea I've gotta an excusa.
Victor....I hope...cause I've read it over and over and apart from the Doh (Homer, sorry) it's the only other one I can see. I can't even use the I'm tired excuse...cause it would sound lame and like I'm trying to make an excuse.......wait....I'm babling, that means I must be tired. Yea I've gotta an excusa.
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Del Jarman
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There you go Roders I knew you'd get there in the end. Just remember tho' I said they say look like! NOT that I'm like him.
I suppose I should have said "bloody kids" but that would have made it toooo!! easy peasie.
Hope you had a good kip & are ready for what the day throws at you.
Del.
I suppose I should have said "bloody kids" but that would have made it toooo!! easy peasie.
Hope you had a good kip & are ready for what the day throws at you.
Del.
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Ron Clay
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I am staggered at the total resemblance of Stuart Bullard to Frank Guttfield. I hope you do not take offence Stuart but if your hair was a touch darker you and Frank when he was about 25, would be twins.
Are you sure you are not related?
For those who do not remember Frank Guttfield, he was quite simply one of my favourite heros of the 50s and 60s. Frank lived in Arlesey Beds (famous for the Arlesey Bomb) and caught some huge trout on fly from the River Ivel in his teens. He knew **** Walker extremely well. Walker lived down the road in Hitchin.
He wrote a book called "In Search of Big Fish" in 1963, which described a year from his early specimen hunting days. Frank described times spent with Bill Keal, Jack Hilton, Peter Frost, Billycan Quinlan and many others.
Above all this book is very humerous and atmospheric. In my opinion is one of the most important books covering the early days of the specimen hunting revolution.
If you can get a copy it is a "must read".
Are you sure you are not related?
For those who do not remember Frank Guttfield, he was quite simply one of my favourite heros of the 50s and 60s. Frank lived in Arlesey Beds (famous for the Arlesey Bomb) and caught some huge trout on fly from the River Ivel in his teens. He knew **** Walker extremely well. Walker lived down the road in Hitchin.
He wrote a book called "In Search of Big Fish" in 1963, which described a year from his early specimen hunting days. Frank described times spent with Bill Keal, Jack Hilton, Peter Frost, Billycan Quinlan and many others.
Above all this book is very humerous and atmospheric. In my opinion is one of the most important books covering the early days of the specimen hunting revolution.
If you can get a copy it is a "must read".
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Stuart Bullard
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I have just seen this thread and I asked my colleague "...have you heard of Frank Guttfield". Now I know why she didn't!!
I have had a couple of "look alike" mistakes. The last one was in October last year. My hair was longer and it goes a bit curlier as a result. I went into Boots and handed over a film for development. The woman looked at me and screamed "Oh Jerry Springer !!". Well, thank heavans it was a woman who served me, because I think I would have head butted any bloke accusing me of being him....I ask you, Jerry Bloody Springer!
The other one was some kids asking me for my autograph when I used to play a lot of cricket and they thought I was Graham Dilley...... but Jerry Springer (can you tell that got to me).
And I don't mind Ron, I just wish I could fish like him as well!!
I have had a couple of "look alike" mistakes. The last one was in October last year. My hair was longer and it goes a bit curlier as a result. I went into Boots and handed over a film for development. The woman looked at me and screamed "Oh Jerry Springer !!". Well, thank heavans it was a woman who served me, because I think I would have head butted any bloke accusing me of being him....I ask you, Jerry Bloody Springer!
The other one was some kids asking me for my autograph when I used to play a lot of cricket and they thought I was Graham Dilley...... but Jerry Springer (can you tell that got to me).
And I don't mind Ron, I just wish I could fish like him as well!!
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Ron Clay
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Oh I should have said, along with Graham's book - "Advanced Coarse Fishing".
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Richard Drayson
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Ron, I expect you used to read "Creel" as well. I did.
There's a tackle fair near to me soon, I might just buy a few copies (if there are any) to read during the closed season.
There's a tackle fair near to me soon, I might just buy a few copies (if there are any) to read during the closed season.
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Neil Wayte
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Excuse me Mr Clay my double is Charlie Bronson.
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GYPSY DAVE
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Ron, perhaps you can help me with a story my dad told me many moons ago regarding the Taylor brothers, **** walker and Arseley lake. I beleive one of them claimed to have cast a lead the full length of the lake, this being a few hundred yards!, and it turned out that it was true because they had fished all night on a frozen lake!! and the lead was sliding all the way without them Knowing?
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Paul Thompson
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Neil, Shouldn't you be banged up in solitary, holding a librarian, and some hijackers hostage? LOL
The donkey walloper...
The donkey walloper...
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Mike Parker
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Ron that book, is it how Graham made all his money?
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Neil Wayte
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Many people have suggested I should be locked up.Very true.
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Ron Clay
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Mike, ask Graham that.
I remember the story when RW and Co fished Arlesey Lake at 200 yards distance. About 1956 it was. And do you know I think it was Frank Guttfield who told me that story, when he came to Sheffield ca 1965 for a National Angling Exhibition.
I'd better drop these sorts of subjects, I'll really showing my age.
No Neil, you mustn't be locked up.
Just shave your beard off that's all.
I remember the story when RW and Co fished Arlesey Lake at 200 yards distance. About 1956 it was. And do you know I think it was Frank Guttfield who told me that story, when he came to Sheffield ca 1965 for a National Angling Exhibition.
I'd better drop these sorts of subjects, I'll really showing my age.
No Neil, you mustn't be locked up.
Just shave your beard off that's all.
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The book brought me countless riches that keep me living in the lap of luxury.
I wish!
It was a best selling book, and there were two things that made me particularly proud of it. The foreword was written by Peter Stone, and **** Walker devoted the whole of his Angling Times column one week in praise of it.
I wish!
It was a best selling book, and there were two things that made me particularly proud of it. The foreword was written by Peter Stone, and **** Walker devoted the whole of his Angling Times column one week in praise of it.
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Ron Clay
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I aquired a copy of Graham's book recently and I think I've read it cover to cover about 15 times.
It's about time we had a new book from Graham. About his angling memories, or perhaps I shoud do one.
It's about time we had a new book from Graham. About his angling memories, or perhaps I shoud do one.
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Angling books have gone the way of fishing papers and magazines in that the emphasis is on the pictures rather than the prose.
Most major publishers are not really interested in fishing books, and those that are, are the specialist ones that publish specialist species magazines and then the book is just a thick copy of the magazine with a hard cover.
About 10% of anglers buy a fishing publication and only a fraction of those buy books. Take into account that anglers have gone down from 4 million to a little over 1 million and you can see why the bottom has dropped out of the book market.
If you look carefully you will find that most recent books have been self-financed or are limited editions.
That's why they're so expensive and another reason why they sell very few.
And that's why the likes of Ron and I couldn't write a bio type fishing book unless it was self-published and self-financed.
It just isn't worth the effort.
However, fishing is on a slightly upward trend at present, so maybe the situation will alter in the not too distant future.
Hopefully before me and Ron curl our toes up.
Most major publishers are not really interested in fishing books, and those that are, are the specialist ones that publish specialist species magazines and then the book is just a thick copy of the magazine with a hard cover.
About 10% of anglers buy a fishing publication and only a fraction of those buy books. Take into account that anglers have gone down from 4 million to a little over 1 million and you can see why the bottom has dropped out of the book market.
If you look carefully you will find that most recent books have been self-financed or are limited editions.
That's why they're so expensive and another reason why they sell very few.
And that's why the likes of Ron and I couldn't write a bio type fishing book unless it was self-published and self-financed.
It just isn't worth the effort.
However, fishing is on a slightly upward trend at present, so maybe the situation will alter in the not too distant future.
Hopefully before me and Ron curl our toes up.
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Ron Clay
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This is true and I hope that Richard Lee is taking note.
It is a great shame that angling journalism has taken this turn. Angling, traditionally and historically has some of the finest literature and prose ever written in the English Language. From Walton to Sheringham, from Plunkett-Green to Walker, our sport has indeed been enriched.
As we enter the third millenium it does seem that we are bent on becoming less civilised. Awful "journalism", papers like the Daily Sport, Picture comics, dumbing down by Blair and others. It is now a case of mediocrity ruling.
Look at our politicians for example.
Seemingly it does not pay to be talented anymore!!
It is a great shame that angling journalism has taken this turn. Angling, traditionally and historically has some of the finest literature and prose ever written in the English Language. From Walton to Sheringham, from Plunkett-Green to Walker, our sport has indeed been enriched.
As we enter the third millenium it does seem that we are bent on becoming less civilised. Awful "journalism", papers like the Daily Sport, Picture comics, dumbing down by Blair and others. It is now a case of mediocrity ruling.
Look at our politicians for example.
Seemingly it does not pay to be talented anymore!!
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Kevan Farmer
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Ron. Sadly we live in a 'pass the buck' society nowadays. This is seen in all walks of life from journalism - as you have rightly pointed out - down to basic school teaching. I will not go into the arguments of it all as we do still have some very good journalists and excellent school teachers. Why are they hobbled by others though? More to the point, why do we as a society let them get away with it? I know I've strayed a bit from what you started to say Ron but I'm sure you get my meaning.
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Stuart Bullard
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Neil, when I picture you I think of ZZ Top straight away......and certainly not Charles Bronson!!
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Ron Clay
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If I may change the subject slightly, I am sure many of you have seen the TV quiz -"The Weakest Link".
Similar to what happens in this quiz, it looks like in the modern world, the less able gang up against the strong, the weak and brainless are constantly degrading the talented, and the truly talented get nowhere!!
Take "Pop Idle" as an example.
Similar to what happens in this quiz, it looks like in the modern world, the less able gang up against the strong, the weak and brainless are constantly degrading the talented, and the truly talented get nowhere!!
Take "Pop Idle" as an example.