Rod ;sleeves, holdalls and quivers.

[Ray Roberts]

I will have a similar problem with a twin tip rod. I think I will get a tube suitable for a single section so I can have it protected in the sleeve when the other two sections are in use. It would also stiffen up the sleeve when the whole rod is all in there.

I may go back to tubes in a quiver. I’ll see how the tent pole goes first. I once broke three expensive rods and two reels when a barrow slipped out of my grasp going up a slope to an irrigation reservoir. A dear day’s fishing that one.

Good luck with finding a tube for a single section that doesn’t take up most of the room in the sleeve. If you find one let us know.

 

[Alan Whitty]

Sadly, most to quality rods are from a time gone by imo, rods like Normarks, Hardy's, plus others, so the weight of a tube and the time it takes to set them up is immaterial to me, the gear deserved my care and gets it, add to that my preference for rigging up fresh before float or feeder fishing it's a no-brainer...

 

[Philip]

I have used holdalls and quivers but I found them too cumbersome and heavy especially when roving about but I understand people not wanting to damage their rods. Nowadays I take most of the rods made up and just held together with an elastic band round the butt. Agree that its more suited to two peice rods, 3 peice can be a pain.

Worst of all was a Diawa sensor Z rod that had 3 unequal length sections ...what an utter PITA that is to carry made up !

 

[seth49]

I use the 4 rod version of this, no problems at all with it.

Preston Supera X 2 Rod Holdall 195

Key FeaturesHardcase outer shell Internal fastening points Strong, oversized zips Side mounted padded shoulder strap Padded carry handle 840D wipe down material Dimensions: 195x27x19cm

www.anglingdirect.co.uk

 

[SBurt]

I have found that today's slimmer rods can certainly still rattle around in their bags while in tubes. Plus I don't want the extra weight.

I find that if the tube fits the size of the rod, (eg three inch diameter for carp/pike rods and two and a half inch diameter for float/feeder rods), and the rod is in the original cloth bag then a tube is the safest place to be for a rod. No part of the rod's surface or rings will touch another section of rod and if the tube is sized to the rod, the rod will not move around erratically in the tube. The best tip protectors and padded sleeves that money can buy will not protect a rod as well as a cylindrical tube from impact or pressure.
Saying all that, tubes are useless if you want to carry made up rods.

 

[nottskev]

The angler who arrives all set up has still had to invest the same time in setting up at home..... I can see how some styles lend themselves to it, especially leger/feder, where someone might use the same rig on numerous swims or even waters, but float fishing? Surely you want to see your swim and reckon up the distances, conditions, flow, drift, wind etc before you pick a float and decide how to shot it?

I actually don't like setting up in the house, not least because in a room it seems that much easier to swipe a rod into something or poke it in the ceiling. When I do make up a rod or some pole rigs, I put my seatbox on the lawn - all the rig bits and pieces are then to hand - and have room to wave rods, top kits etc around as needed. Much as I do on the bank.

 

[Keith M]

The angler who arrives all set up has still had to invest the same time in setting up at home..... I can see how some styles lend themselves to it, especially leger/feder, where someone might use the same rig on numerous swims or even waters, but float fishing? Surely you want to see your swim and reckon up the distances, conditions, flow, drift, wind etc before you pick a float and decide how to shot it?

I actually don't like setting up in the house, not least because in a room it seems that much easier to swipe a rod into something or poke it in the ceiling. When I do make up a rod or some pole rigs, I put my seatbox on the lawn - all the rig bits and pieces are then to hand - and have room to wave rods, top kits etc around as needed. Much as I do on the bank.

The angler who arrives all set up has still had to invest the same time in setting up at home..... Yes I agree; however when I’m setting up at home (in my garden) I can do it in my own time without any rush; and in a lot more comfort; and I don’t stand the chance of spooking any fish in my swim; plus I can have a decent cup of tea made for me while I’m doing it

but float fishing? Surely you want to see your swim and reckon up the distances, conditions, flow, drift, wind etc before you pick a float and decide how to shot it?

Yes I agree this is true a lot of the time; however quite a bit of my time I’m fishing in familiar swims that I know well, plus I use float adapters; or float rubbers; which allows me to add whatever float I need on the bank; and i’ll only add my shot after I’ve plumbed my swim.

However; I don’t take any chances if I’m fishing with a light and more delicate rod; so I wouldn’t carry one of these rods ‘ready made up’.I only carry a rod ‘ready made up’ if it’s a Specimen sized rod or larger; such as a Tench, Carp, Chub or Barbel rod etc.

NB: At the risk of ‘the famous last words’ ; I can honestly say that I’ve not caused any damage to any rod that I’ve carried ‘ready made up’ (so far).

Keith

 

[@Clive]

The angler who arrives all set up has still had to invest the same time in setting up at home..... I can see how some styles lend themselves to it, especially leger/feder, where someone might use the same rig on numerous swims or even waters, but float fishing? Surely you want to see your swim and reckon up the distances, conditions, flow, drift, wind etc before you pick a float and decide how to shot it?

I actually don't like setting up in the house, not least because in a room it seems that much easier to swipe a rod into something or poke it in the ceiling. When I do make up a rod or some pole rigs, I put my seatbox on the lawn - all the rig bits and pieces are then to hand - and have room to wave rods, top kits etc around as needed. Much as I do on the bank.

Kev, the way I see it is that time on the bank is short and precious. I have much more down time at home and a huge basement where my tackle is stored. I can set up a rod on tressles, or sometimes by resting it on the door mirror of my wife's car. I rarely fish anywhere that I have not previously fished or reccied and plumbed.

Regards setting up the gear; I usually know where and how I'll be fishing. Ledger tackle is basically the same other than the length & strength of the hook link and size / type of hook. If I get it wrong I can quickly change that on the day. Float fishing for me is usually waggler or a sliding float given the depth of the waters I fish. Both can be set up with a float attachment and sliding stop knot ready for float and shot. Sometimes I'll guess what I will be using based on experience and conditions and shot for a particular float. Again, changes can be made quickly on the day. If I am intending to trot on the shallower swims I can put two float rubbers on the line and a BB shot to stop them sliding off. Then add the float and extra shot when I get there.

I spend many happy hours in the basement preparing for fishing sessions.

 

[Blue Fisher]

I may go back to tubes in a quiver. I’ll see how the tent pole goes first. I once broke three expensive rods and two reels when a barrow slipped out of my grasp going up a slope to an irrigation reservoir. A dear day’s fishing that one.

Good luck with finding a tube for a single section that doesn’t take up most of the room in the sleeve. If you find one let us know.

I have an old pole and I aim to use a couple of sections as a tube that way I can choose the smallest diameter possible. I’ll make a single tube of cloth to protect the unused twin tip section from the rattling on the inside of the tube. Then I’ll look for a quiver that fits.

 

[mikench]

plus I can have a decent cup of tea made for me while I’m doing it

Mrs M spoiling you again. Come on Keith tell the truth , she is your ghillie , setting up your rod and feeding your swim before going home to prepare a delicious meal. She is one in a million.

 

[RMNDIL]

RMNDIL You are obviously happy with a padded specialist quiver for light roving, does this leave the tips exposed? I.e do you think the risk to the rods is acceptable with care? Could you share the make.

Originally, 20+ years ago and for a few seasons I used the original Drennan Specialst quiver which was short and with a open top so not length restrictions. I was using 1 1/2lb TC Specialist rods. They/it fitted in my car easily enough for length but I did need to be careful as the rods were external. I never had a problem but I was careful. Then some years later I changed to the padded twin rod sleeve version of same make with rods inside and landing net handle, bankstick(s) and even brolly attached outside. It's just better and safer with nothing exposed and I can have very delicate rods in it (like light float rods and fine quivertip/feeder rods).

 

[steve2]

I have the rods that I use in rod sleeves already set up. But seeing that I fish few different waters these days I know how I am going to fish before I arrive. Also have my lure rods setup ready to go just need to clip on a lure. Can't remember the last time I set up a rod on the bank.

 

[Alan Whitty]

The only time I use made up rods is when 'proper' barbel fishing, which equates to my holidays at Christchurch nowadays, where every three sessions or so I strip 4yds of mainline off and re-rig to ensure its reliability. But for float fishing in my opinion the 30 minutes I take to rig a float rod up is well spent because I'm prepping the swim with feed whilst doing it, that is why when I barbel fish on harder venues I don't actually cast in for 45 minutes after feeding, their confidence being key to me getting any sort of bite at all...

 

[Blue Fisher]

Well I’ve brought a Korum progress 2 rod quiver. It is smaller than I expected but this may be a good thing since it may stop me carrying too much. Unfortunately I’m not expecting to get down the river before November so don’t hold your breath for a review!
I already plan to devise some sort of sock to go over the top this will keep it at minimum length for the car and provide a bit of further protection.

 

[Blue Fisher]

So I have used the Korum progress 2 rod quiver a few times now and I quite like it. It has a zip up section for two made up rods. The Umbrella section I use for my spare tip for the twin tip within its home made tube. The landing net handle goes in there too with a spare trotting rod in its bag. I don’t carry an umbrella, I get wet or don’t go. There is a small section for rod rests, which is OK for me since I only carry two. I have heard that the zips are vulnerable so I take care when using them. I expect it would be advisable to lubricate them. Being a quiver the rod tips are exposed but I brought NGT tip protectors which are quite long. With these in place there is only about 3 inches of my 11ft rods exposed. It’s a bit small but that’s not all bad since I tend to carry too much and this makes me trim down to the essentials. The strap is long enough and there is a padded section on it. Over all I’m happy with it so far.

 

[nottskev]

So I have used the Korum progress 2 rod quiver a few times now and I quite like it. It has a zip up section for two made up rods. The Umbrella section I use for my spare tip for the twin tip within its home made tube. The landing net handle goes in there too with a spare trotting rod in its bag. I don’t carry an umbrella, I get wet or don’t go. There is a small section for rod rests, which is OK for me since I only carry two. I have heard that the zips are vulnerable so I take care when using them. I expect it would be advisable to lubricate them. Being a quiver the rod tips are exposed but I brought NGT tip protectors which are quite long. With these in place there is only about 3 inches of my 11ft rods exposed. It’s a bit small but that’s not all bad since I tend to carry too much and this makes me trim down to the essentials. The strap is long enough and there is a padded section on it. Over all I’m happy with it so far.

Can I ask how long the quiver is? It sounds, from what you say about 11' rods, as if it's quite long. I did look on the Korum site after reading your comments, but they don't give any dimensions.

 

[Blue Fisher]

The top of the quiver section is about 52 inches. The top of the brolly section about 57 inches. With a Ngt tip protector on a 2 piece 11 ft rod, the end of the tip protector is flush with the top of the brolly section, leaving only 5 inch of the rod partially exposed.
When carrying the quiver this exposed bit is near my head and I don’t often stick my head in the brambles, so the exposed bit of rod is unlikely to get caught up in bankside vegetation.

The zip on the quiver section does open completely but I cannot see the point so just zip it down.
There is plenty of room for the reels In the two padded reel sections, so much space that I am thinking of putting my fishing towel in there instead of in my bag.
Undoing the quiver section zip gives access to the brolly section zip which goes part way down. In general I don’t use this zip. I just reach in to the brolly section and get what I want.
Once two rods are in the quiver, space is a bit tight and the pockets for the butt end of the rods are also a bit tight if tip protectors are on the butt. But having said that, they do go in.

There is a small pocket on the side for bank sticks. I only use one bank stick for the rod, the other keeps the landing net handle off the ground so I can easily pick it up.
The carrying strap hook seems a bit flimsy but has not failed.

 

[nottskev]

Thanks. That's way more informative than any of Korum's ads or videos. It looks better than the one I use at the moment. I'll look at the Compact version too.

 

[Blue Fisher]

Thanks. That's way more informative than any of Korum's ads or videos. It looks better than the one I use at the moment. I'll look at the Compact version too.

Yes I also found it difficult to get all the info I wanted from the ads and videos, lots of pausing videos and having a careful look. I have also purchased the 35l rukbag. It has a strange feature where your seat is mounted between you and the nice cushioned part of the bag! I carry the seat separately. At least I found a branch of AD which had one I could look at. Not used to it yet. b I know the carrying straps could be better.