Swinging Bite Indicator for Stillwater Roach?

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I used to use them years ago, great for getting out of wind which inteferes with swing tips anfd quiver, I'd make them out broken umbrellas using the hinge in the spokes. Theptoblem with them is that if they are fixed on the line they interfere with casting, if they have to be connected to the line afier each cast you might as well clip a bobboin on the line. Bobbin s can be made in a wide range of wieghts and with a lenght of pole elastic in the "string" can be made to suddenly provide some resistence after set length of free movement, the 2string" cna also heve a wieght on it so there's a sudden resistance.
 

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There is also the sidewinder set up .
If I use a sidewinder and quite often do for fishing close in, up to 20 yards, I back it up with a electronic bite indicators. As has been said, casting out with the indicator connected can be a pain in the.... So rarely go further than 20 yards when using them.
 

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If I use a sidewinder and quite often do for fishing close in, up to 20 yards, I back it up with a electronic bite indicators. As has been said, casting out with the indicator connected can be a pain in the.... So rarely go further than 20 yards when using them.
isn't Vinnie Smith and Tricast develop them ?
I'm sure I saw an article with him on Sale Water Park . Also using a spring quiver tip on another rod .
 

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isn't Vinnie Smith and Tricast develop them ?
I'm sure I saw an article with him on Sale Water Park . Also using a spring quiver tip on another rod .
He may have done Mark, but Polaris are the original makers. Mine are adapted from just the the glass arms with the other fittings (end ring and rod attachments) made by me.
 

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Could they be line bites Peter? Roach normally pass food items straight down to their pharyngeal teeth for processing, hence the missed bites that result in nipped or crushed maggots. Is it possible to use a softer bait like paste where the hook could easily pull through as the line tightened?

I am not a fan of the heli-rig purely on fish welfare grounds. I don't doubt its efficiency though.
Try as Clive says, that or use maggots bred from a dead wood pidgeon. Gossers were indispensible on the Witham back in the day for its shy biting Bream as they were so much softer than shop bought ones.
Who knows, they may suit the roach you're after?
 

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Try as Clive says, that or use maggots bred from a dead wood pidgeon. Gossers were indispensible on the Witham back in the day for its shy biting Bream as they were so much softer than shop bought ones.
Who knows, they may suit the roach you're after?
Or in the absence of gozzers, try casters.
 
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