Merv Harrison
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Sorry, and 'Barbecue'.
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Ron Troversial Clay
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OK SEVEN big "Bs"
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Robert Woods 1
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John,
I played golf on my honeymoon.
Tiger Woods.
I played golf on my honeymoon.
Tiger Woods.
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John Hepworth
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Spent mine in a cottage, Leven, Yorkshire.
It was the week before Christmas, and I'm still shivering.
It was the week before Christmas, and I'm still shivering.
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Sorry! Ron Chant has only recently alerted me to this thread.
Regarding Ron Clay's initial post perhaps I can be of help regarding The Herts-Chiltern Anglers, and can do no better than quote Bill Quinlan, in his interview, originally for 'Big Fish World' magazine, and latterly reproduced in the book, 'The Life and Times of Bill Quinlan', compiled by Bob Buteux. In my question to Bill, asking for details of the formation of The Herts-Chiltern Anglers, this is his reply:
"For me it all started on 3rd April, 1964 with a workmate pointing out a notice in 'Angling Times'. This said something like: 'Wanted - Bill the Bike, who fishes Southill and Henlow Grange'. It was sent in by Roy Pinnock and John Coxhill, two characters I'd 'jawed-to' for hours, so it was a good chance they were referring to me. As I got home that evening Bob (Buteux) was on the phone - he also thought the notice referred to me.
After contact was made, Bob and I met Roy and John in a pub, and we joined the Chiltern Group, as we called it. More anglers followed and as far as I remember, the names were: Roy Pinnock, John Coxhill, Tony Williams, Gwyn Williams, Derek Smith, Alan Brown, Dave Hugill, Bob Carter, Bob Buteux and myself.
Some of us were constantly fishing with members of the Herts Group, as most members of both groups fished Southill and Henlow, it would be preferable to amalgamate. Hence The Herts-Chiltern Anglers was formed, I think in May 1965. This brought in names like Jack Hilton, Roger Smith, Pete Frost, Frank Guttfield, Bill Keal, Alec Lewis, Roy Wickes, Kenny Ewington and Ron Taylor. As some members lost interest and left, others were invited to join, but there had to be a unanimous vote of existing members before the invitation was issued. Later members of the Herts-Chiltern included Tony Dixon, Trevor Hutchins, Dave Boothroyd, Dave Cheshire, Tony Abbot, Pete and Janet Jackson and, of course, you Len."
The Herts-Chiltern remains active but is only attended by a few die-hards, Roger Smith, Pete Frost and Pete and JanetJackson.
Bob Buteux and I still keep in touch but, since both moving away from the London area, mainly by phone.
Those members now, alas, deceased include Jack Hilton, Alec Lewis, Dave Cheshire, Bill Keal, Bill Quinlan, John Coxhill, Gwyn Williams and Derek Smith.
Trust this is of interest and must now close as this thing is taking on epic proportions. Len.
Regarding Ron Clay's initial post perhaps I can be of help regarding The Herts-Chiltern Anglers, and can do no better than quote Bill Quinlan, in his interview, originally for 'Big Fish World' magazine, and latterly reproduced in the book, 'The Life and Times of Bill Quinlan', compiled by Bob Buteux. In my question to Bill, asking for details of the formation of The Herts-Chiltern Anglers, this is his reply:
"For me it all started on 3rd April, 1964 with a workmate pointing out a notice in 'Angling Times'. This said something like: 'Wanted - Bill the Bike, who fishes Southill and Henlow Grange'. It was sent in by Roy Pinnock and John Coxhill, two characters I'd 'jawed-to' for hours, so it was a good chance they were referring to me. As I got home that evening Bob (Buteux) was on the phone - he also thought the notice referred to me.
After contact was made, Bob and I met Roy and John in a pub, and we joined the Chiltern Group, as we called it. More anglers followed and as far as I remember, the names were: Roy Pinnock, John Coxhill, Tony Williams, Gwyn Williams, Derek Smith, Alan Brown, Dave Hugill, Bob Carter, Bob Buteux and myself.
Some of us were constantly fishing with members of the Herts Group, as most members of both groups fished Southill and Henlow, it would be preferable to amalgamate. Hence The Herts-Chiltern Anglers was formed, I think in May 1965. This brought in names like Jack Hilton, Roger Smith, Pete Frost, Frank Guttfield, Bill Keal, Alec Lewis, Roy Wickes, Kenny Ewington and Ron Taylor. As some members lost interest and left, others were invited to join, but there had to be a unanimous vote of existing members before the invitation was issued. Later members of the Herts-Chiltern included Tony Dixon, Trevor Hutchins, Dave Boothroyd, Dave Cheshire, Tony Abbot, Pete and Janet Jackson and, of course, you Len."
The Herts-Chiltern remains active but is only attended by a few die-hards, Roger Smith, Pete Frost and Pete and JanetJackson.
Bob Buteux and I still keep in touch but, since both moving away from the London area, mainly by phone.
Those members now, alas, deceased include Jack Hilton, Alec Lewis, Dave Cheshire, Bill Keal, Bill Quinlan, John Coxhill, Gwyn Williams and Derek Smith.
Trust this is of interest and must now close as this thing is taking on epic proportions. Len.
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Len,
Many thanks for your post. It is much appreciated. I realise now that it was the Herts Group, not the "Herts Chiltern" group that I should have spoken about.
I gave away my copy of "In Search of Big Fish" by Frank Guttfield many years ago. so you must please forgive me if my wanderings are not 100% correct.
Roy Wicks. Now there is a name to conjure with. I fished for years in South Africa with an old mate of his - one Bill Steele who spent much of his life in Arlesey.
Does anyone have a copy of "In Search of Big Fish" by Frank Guttfield? I am prepared to pay a good price for a copy. Can anyone help?
By the way I have fished at Henlow Grange and Southill Park.
Classic waters indeed.
Many thanks for your post. It is much appreciated. I realise now that it was the Herts Group, not the "Herts Chiltern" group that I should have spoken about.
I gave away my copy of "In Search of Big Fish" by Frank Guttfield many years ago. so you must please forgive me if my wanderings are not 100% correct.
Roy Wicks. Now there is a name to conjure with. I fished for years in South Africa with an old mate of his - one Bill Steele who spent much of his life in Arlesey.
Does anyone have a copy of "In Search of Big Fish" by Frank Guttfield? I am prepared to pay a good price for a copy. Can anyone help?
By the way I have fished at Henlow Grange and Southill Park.
Classic waters indeed.
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Ron,
Just looked on www.anglebooks.com , they have a few copies of Frank's book. I'm amazed how much some of my books are worth...tempted to sell a few as I don't read them anymore.
Just looked on www.anglebooks.com , they have a few copies of Frank's book. I'm amazed how much some of my books are worth...tempted to sell a few as I don't read them anymore.
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Robert/Ron - Not the cheapest place to buy fishing books and not always a true indication of value. Try Ebay for starters.
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Ron,
Glad to be of help and, by the way, may I just add: I've not come across the name Bernie Everitt in any Herts-Chiltern context. And, Peter Mead, ex-London Group, died many years ago.
Bill Quinlan and I met, and fished occasionally with, both Peter Mead and Herbie Green at Wrasbury 1, back in the late 1960's.
Fred Wagstaff is also no longer with us.
Len.
Glad to be of help and, by the way, may I just add: I've not come across the name Bernie Everitt in any Herts-Chiltern context. And, Peter Mead, ex-London Group, died many years ago.
Bill Quinlan and I met, and fished occasionally with, both Peter Mead and Herbie Green at Wrasbury 1, back in the late 1960's.
Fred Wagstaff is also no longer with us.
Len.
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Len,
Do you remember the name of the LSHG member who worked in Dons ?
Bob
Do you remember the name of the LSHG member who worked in Dons ?
Bob
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Bob,
Not unless it was the 'knot man' - Alan Vare. If not Alan Vare, and it is important to you, I can probably find out, after a phone call or two.
Len
Not unless it was the 'knot man' - Alan Vare. If not Alan Vare, and it is important to you, I can probably find out, after a phone call or two.
Len
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I beleive there is a book available about the life of Bill Quinlan.
A true angling character.
A true angling character.
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Ron,
Yes, you are correct on both counts: 'THE LIFE AND TIMES OF BILL QUINLAN' is published by the Little Egret Press, and was compiled by Bill's and my good mate, Bob 'breadflake' Buteux.
And, Bill WAS a true angling character, and simply the best mate anyone could wish for, besides being a truly innovative genius. And I still miss him so much today.
Len
Yes, you are correct on both counts: 'THE LIFE AND TIMES OF BILL QUINLAN' is published by the Little Egret Press, and was compiled by Bill's and my good mate, Bob 'breadflake' Buteux.
And, Bill WAS a true angling character, and simply the best mate anyone could wish for, besides being a truly innovative genius. And I still miss him so much today.
Len
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Then Len, he was to you like Ray Webb was to me.
It's about time that Barrie got to work on the life and times of Ray Webb.
It's about time that Barrie got to work on the life and times of Ray Webb.
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Fred Wagstaffe. There again is another angling character of the highest order.
I remember clearly a monsterous piss up I had with Waggers, in a garage in Melton Mowbray ca 1965 after one of the first meetings on the NASG. I remember a number of the other anglers there, amongst them, Roy Ecob, Steve Crawshaw, Eric Taylor and Eric Hodson.
Fred fished for many years with Bob Reynolds in Ireland. They produced a regular AT column. I used to get AT about 3 weeks late in South Africa.
Great memories.
I remember clearly a monsterous piss up I had with Waggers, in a garage in Melton Mowbray ca 1965 after one of the first meetings on the NASG. I remember a number of the other anglers there, amongst them, Roy Ecob, Steve Crawshaw, Eric Taylor and Eric Hodson.
Fred fished for many years with Bob Reynolds in Ireland. They produced a regular AT column. I used to get AT about 3 weeks late in South Africa.
Great memories.
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I spoke to Fred a few years ago, he was moving house at the time and involved to some measure with the PAC in Leicester
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Though I could never lay claim to knowing Fred Wagstaff well, I met him on a few occasions down the years, and even shared the platform with him at one NASA conference. In my opinion, Fred talked a lot of sense. Well, he did on that occasion. Though Quinlan often spoke of the antics he, Fred, and Bill Keal got upto at the Northampton Speccy do's!Unprintable though, I'm afraid.
Len
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By the way Len I have read stories that Bill Quinlan used to make tea from water drawn from whatever the lake or river he happened to be fishing.
I have done this for years and it's never done me any harm.
You need to boil the water for at least 5 minutes before you drink it however.
Perhaps today this is not to be recommended. However when you are fishing off the beaten track and you have to walk miles to get to your swim, the carrying of water is a major problem. When our new water filters are on the market, I will be giving them a full review. As it is, there is not one portable water filter you can buy today that will remove and kill all bacteria and other viable organisms.
Sorry for wandering by the way.
I have done this for years and it's never done me any harm.
You need to boil the water for at least 5 minutes before you drink it however.
Perhaps today this is not to be recommended. However when you are fishing off the beaten track and you have to walk miles to get to your swim, the carrying of water is a major problem. When our new water filters are on the market, I will be giving them a full review. As it is, there is not one portable water filter you can buy today that will remove and kill all bacteria and other viable organisms.
Sorry for wandering by the way.
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Ron,
Why don't you write 'The Life and Times of Ray Webb'yourself? OH, and did you mention Barry Rickards was writing a book on **** Walker? I have a few Walker pics that might interest him, if it's not too late of course.
Yes, Bill Quinlan would sometimes make tea with whatever water was to hand. 'Quinlan's brew' made from Redmire's water when coloured by daphnia was unbelievable, it tasted more like fishpaste! But, that ain't the worst of it, guests, especially unwelcome visitors, had their tea presented to them in the cup in which he soaked his false-teeth!
Regards, Len
Why don't you write 'The Life and Times of Ray Webb'yourself? OH, and did you mention Barry Rickards was writing a book on **** Walker? I have a few Walker pics that might interest him, if it's not too late of course.
Yes, Bill Quinlan would sometimes make tea with whatever water was to hand. 'Quinlan's brew' made from Redmire's water when coloured by daphnia was unbelievable, it tasted more like fishpaste! But, that ain't the worst of it, guests, especially unwelcome visitors, had their tea presented to them in the cup in which he soaked his false-teeth!
Regards, Len
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Ha Ha Ha Ha !!!!
I never met Bill but no doubt he was one of anglings true characters.
Those **** Walker pics I am sure would be invaluable to Barrie.
No doubt Bill Quinlan was a bit like Ray Webb in some ways. Ray always thought that most people, especially women were a bit over sensitive.......
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I never met Bill but no doubt he was one of anglings true characters.
Those **** Walker pics I am sure would be invaluable to Barrie.
No doubt Bill Quinlan was a bit like Ray Webb in some ways. Ray always thought that most people, especially women were a bit over sensitive.......
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