The perfect rod choice for chub.

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Well there you go then. I use the Avon happily, though it may limit me a little, it has quivers of no more than 2oz. I won't use the Specialist, I'd struggle to find anywhere on the river where a 1oz tip would be enough.

I have the specialist version but I've got extra tips for it, roughly 1.5 and 2-2.5 oz but TBH the rod I prefer is a real cheapo Euro Star Barbel feeder rod, which is much softer from the quiver tip through to the midway joint - this elasticity isn't actually needed, I just prefer it.
 

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I'm not saying others are wrong but I'm shocked how much flow they find on their nearside; I've fished the rivers Wye, Severn (middle and lower), Teme, Warks Avon, Eden, Lugg all with 6ft plus on and have never really struggled with a 4oz tip.:confused:
Do you guys on spate rivers tend fish in creases or out in the flow?

I totally go with Chav's thoughts on the fish having to react faster in faster flows but I will add - that doesn't mean they always hammer your bait giving bites more akin to a barbel.

With the possible exception of the Wye, the rivers you state, including the Severn, as it's a long river running through relatively flat landscape in mid and lower reaches, don't have the decent on them that Northern Spates have. This makes them very powerful rivers in the main that get very high rises and quick run offs.

As an example, the Ribble this summer had 5.01 metres on at it's high point, 15 hours later it had .6 m and falling and within 24 it was back at NSL.
Chub fishing on the Ribble isn't worth doing with more than 2 ft on as they rarely feed in such conditions. Better barbel fishing in these conditions as they feed hard and the big girls are out to play. As to fishing to creases, whilst there are a few but the nature of the river, bolder strewn, means the chub can be anywhere on it in the summer, autumn. Come winter they tend to congregate on the deeper bends. But the access I have means that's a 30-50yd cast across the river to get at them. The way I and my mates fish it is to cast across with one rod and halfway with the other. Invariably it's the across rod that picks the fish up.
What you don't really get on the Ribble is the classic raft chub swim to powerful in spate for rafts to form. Even a full tree falling in doesn't last that long a 3 m rise shifts it and there's lots of them. :eek:

As chub fishing in the winter is restricted by the spates and to low clear water or small rises. The bites can be any type, real wrap rounds to 3 or 4 in taps, in low clear water. In these conditions the bends can be benign and you can use a heavy q/tip with the rods set high and it's best to do so, as the 3-4 inch taps are more common.
Dual tip rods in my view are a must for Ribble chubbing, it gives you the option of the rod end or q/tip depending on the type of bites you are getting.
 

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"Forums seem to be the place for the opinionated to give others a 'roasting'......."
Nah, that's what blogs are used for....

I'm not saying others are wrong but I'm shocked how much flow they find on their nearside; I've fished the rivers Wye, Severn (middle and lower), Teme, Warks Avon, Eden, Lugg all with 6ft plus on and have never really struggled with a 4oz tip.:confused:
Do you guys on spate rivers tend fish in creases or out in the flow?

I totally go with Chav's thoughts on the fish having to react faster in faster flows but I will add - that doesn't mean they always hammer your bait giving bites more akin to a barbel.

When I approach larger rivers, I am influenced by my own style of fishing (to my detriment?) But I always try and find slacker water, where as anglers with more experience of fishing bigger, powerful rivers are not fearful of a the flow.

For example, the Warwickshire Avon had 3ft on and rising, but still got away with 1.5 ounce quiver tip and picked up a few barbel - I was targeting chub! I am not talking slacks near the mouths of locks - it was on the main river. Part of my thinking was that I did not want my line washed down with rubbish every 5 minutes.

I just cast out my bait onto the outside of a crease with 2 swan shot, held the bait on a line to let it swing into the slacker side, let out a bit of line till it settled near the bank. Felt for the bait to see if it had hit a clear spot and set the rod on the rest adjusting tension to show a bite anything from a twitch up to the full blown wrap around of a barbel. I did have barbel in the back of my mind with luncheon meat and my own (contreversial:eek:mg:) flood water 'stink' paste alternating on the hook - both caught!

However, Rods up in the air and 4 to 6oz leads caught the bigger barbel.
 

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With the possible exception of the Wye, the rivers you state, including the Severn, as it's a long river running through relatively flat landscape in mid and lower reaches, don't have the decent on them that Northern Spates have. This makes them very powerful rivers in the main that get very high rises and quick run offs.

As an example, the Ribble this summer had 5.01 metres on at it's high point, 15 hours later it had .6 m and falling and within 24 it was back at NSL.
Chub fishing on the Ribble isn't worth doing with more than 2 ft on as they rarely feed in such conditions. Better barbel fishing in these conditions as they feed hard and the big girls are out to play. As to fishing to creases, whilst there are a few but the nature of the river, bolder strewn, means the chub can be anywhere on it in the summer, autumn. Come winter they tend to congregate on the deeper bends. But the access I have means that's a 30-50yd cast across the river to get at them. The way I and my mates fish it is to cast across with one rod and halfway with the other. Invariably it's the across rod that picks the fish up.
What you don't really get on the Ribble is the classic raft chub swim to powerful in spate for rafts to form. Even a full tree falling in doesn't last that long a 3 m rise shifts it and there's lots of them. :eek:

As chub fishing in the winter is restricted by the spates and to low clear water or small rises. The bites can be any type, real wrap rounds to 3 or 4 in taps, in low clear water. In these conditions the bends can be benign and you can use a heavy q/tip with the rods set high and it's best to do so, as the 3-4 inch taps are more common.
Dual tip rods in my view are a must for Ribble chubbing, it gives you the option of the rod end or q/tip depending on the type of bites you are getting.

Very well put that !
TBO, I think you'd write an excellent book my friend ....seriously :).
 

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Very well put that !
TBO, I think you'd write an excellent book my friend ....seriously :).
Ian I don't have the self discipline to do it. I've been working on a book about the Meres and there native species fishing for over two years. The sum total of that is about 50 pages of an angling life's experience of fishing them, close on 40 years.

All the chapters are set out and I know what will go in them, but disciplining myself to writing them day in day out is just not there.
I guess I'm just not a natural writer more a reluctant one when I'm forced or compelled to.
 

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Ian I don't have the self discipline to do it. I've been working on a book about the Meres and there native species fishing for over two years. The sum total of that is about 50 pages of an angling life's experience of fishing them, close on 40 years.

All the chapters are set out and I know what will go in them, but disciplining myself to writing them day in day out is just not there.
I guess I'm just not a natural writer more a reluctant one when I'm forced or compelled to.


Well, if you ever manage to get round to writing one you can put my name down top of the list :).
 
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