Any famous people here?

[blackout]

Sorry guys I havent heard of some of these names (nobodies fault except my own ignorance) I was going to say if they havent been on telly then I guess their not really famous but the real famous ones of yesteryear didnt have tv or internet we learn of them from their writtings and archived materials like **** walker no?

If the tv and internet wasnt invented how many modern celebs would we know of today? It must have been very difficult to become famous prior to 1995 without the internet or before john logi baired invented the telly!

 

[Mr Cholmondeley-Corker (PaSC)]

**** Walker used to be on Fishing Magic A LOT!

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Sorry guys I havent heard of some of these names

Not even Cilla Black?

 

[Lord Paul of Sheffield]

How many fish did Cllia catch?

 

[Peter Jacobs]

How many fish did Cllia catch?

Norra lorra fish

 

[Mr Cholmondeley-Corker (PaSC)]

Surprise surprise!

 

[Lord Paul of Sheffield]

you 2 were quick with that

 

[blackout]

On here fm you mean fishing magic? wow I remember reading his stuff in anglning times didnt know fishing magic was that old thought he died in the 80's? Chris yates catching the impossible, a passion for angling borrowed off a mate - wow how could that story ever be told in a book? brilliant!!! wish i could afford to own that set.

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Shes a good angler along with ken and ester ranson all three can catch fish with their teeth lol

 

[benny samways]

The problem is that you are focussing on the flaws of the supposed bullies (how anyone can bully someone on a forum is quite beyond me) yet ignoring the faults of the posters concerned. It repeatedly strikes me that some posters think that they can do and say whatever they like, quite openly slagging off and stereotyping large groups of anglers. When people that consider themselves to be one of the number being attacked, they sometimes bite back. I see no surprise in that. Don't poke the hornet's nest if you don't wish to be stung.

Cant agree with all of that Im afraid. I can understand people taking offence at some comments that get made but there are personnal vendettas on here. Perhaps as I am fairly new I can see it and those who have been here a while are not completely aware of what happens sometimes. I know you questioned my objectivity but I think familiarity can erode that in all but the fairest minds.

PB has posted in the last few days and the first response to what he said whas disgraceful, the kind of thing that if someone did that to my face I would stick a dragon carp rod up their jacksey.

 

[sam vimes]

Cant agree with all of that Im afraid. I can understand people taking offence at some comments that get made but there are personnal vendettas on here. Perhaps as I am fairly new I can see it and those who have been here a while are not completely aware of what happens sometimes. I know you questioned my objectivity but I think familiarity can erode that in all but the fairest minds.

PB has posted in the last few days and the first response to what he said whas disgraceful, the kind of thing that if someone did that to my face I would stick a dragon carp rod up their jacksey.

There undoubtedly are personality clashes and the protagonists can and have said some pretty awful things. However, that does not apply to all that bite back. I've no wish to see the back of anyone, PB and RC included. That doesn't mean that I'll allow anyone the latitude to bad mouth me, even as a generalization, without response, regardless of their status. I'm really not questioning your objectivity, as such. I'm more concerned that you are lumping together anyone that has the temerity to question these paragons of virtue, who are actually anything but. You are right that if some folks said what they said to people's faces, they could well face a hostile response. That also applies equally to both sides.

 

[benny samways]

Fair do's Sam, you have a way with words that would avoid alot of these conflicts if everyone could write as well as you do.

I suppose in not actually naming individuals it does seem as though I too am lumping people together. Left myself open to that one!

What I could add is; someone such as yourself could put a good response together against a 'protaganist' then you get mindless people who jump on the bandwagon and appear to just nit pick at individuals. I think thats my point. I wont go on as Ive unintentionally devaited the thread and analysed all this lot far too much for my own good.

Paul Whitehouse used to post on here apparantly and on a few other trouty websites.

 

[guest61]

I'm not convinced by 'Forums' - whilst there are some good exchanges of information and in my short time here I've learned a 'bit' and tried to offer a 'bit' to various threads. Unlike face to face conversation, on here its sometimes difficult to follow a line of discussion - you post, log off, maybe someone replies perhaps others reply but often you can't reply directly and the line of thread breaks down or has moved on.

Sadly there are those who clearly have a lot of knowledge of fishing but don't really contribute other than to go in 'studs showing' when someone has an alternative view.

I've been tempted to retaliate to an abusive post - but what's the point, its just words - usually with laughable grammar. (sic)

Famous people? I'm not sure what a 'famous person' is, if by this one means a 'name angler' why would they post? What's in it for them?

 

[tiinker]

I did see that Kevin Clifford posted the other day on a thread dealing with how long fish lived for a very good alround angler and author his last book History of Carp Fishing Revisited is a great book and a very interesting read a angling classic in my opinion.

 

[bennygesserit]

I'm not convinced by 'Forums' - whilst there are some good exchanges of information and in my short time here I've learned a 'bit' and tried to offer a 'bit' to various threads. Unlike face to face conversation, on here its sometimes difficult to follow a line of discussion - you post, log off, maybe someone replies perhaps others reply but often you can't reply directly and the line of thread breaks down or has moved on.

Sadly there are those who clearly have a lot of knowledge of fishing but don't really contribute other than to go in 'studs showing' when someone has an alternative view.

I've been tempted to retaliate to an abusive post - but what's the point, its just words - usually with laughable grammar. (sic)

Famous people? I'm not sure what a 'famous person' is, if by this one means a 'name angler' why would they post? What's in it for them?

Thats a great post !

What I dislike is people who carry things over from one thread to another , but then I am not always sensible either , but it seems bad form. Paul Boote is often the victim of this , OK he is a bit spiky sometimes but fascinating to get his point of view , Ron's too , both sorely missed.

So Ron and PB might have various vendettas running around the net but to be honest I have never seen him start one - but then again I haven't read all his posts - so who knows. But that said I have often seen him join a post in all innocence and simply be attacked , like I said seems bad form when its carried over from one thread to another.

As for not retaliating , because its just words , OOh if only if it were that easy to resist ! ( Quick someone is wrong on the internet ! ) I can't resist especially if I had a beer , some can and see it for what it is - just words on the net that don't , or shouldnt really matter , but some of us get too involved , are too drunk , too silly , too bored to resist , or be offended.

 

[Judas Priest]

I think it all depends on your definition of famous.

Famous people to me are those who have made a contribution to mankind, it's welfare, health, or progress.
People involved in curing the cancers, those who give their life over to helping peoples less fortunate, inventions that have changed peoples lives for the better. Certainly no one involved in the hobby that is fishing.

There does appear though to be a genre of fishing individuals who believe they are famous for some reasoning or other. Never quite got it myself though.

 

[The Monk]

Er but if their angling fame was forged before this internet thingy? By real writing in a magazine Dr Google wouldn't know that would he? Unless it's been mentioned or converted to this internet thingy.

Our own Monky is a case in point, not only famous for his bedding exploits but famous in the printed word many many times. So many that he even recycled his own pieces many times over.

But Dr Google says he famous only on FM.

Haha, dont forget yourself Mr Bad one, you`ve also appeared in print in the specialist world for more times that I can remember, usually fighting for the betterment of angling

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I did see that Kevin Clifford posted the other day on a thread dealing with how long fish lived for a very good alround angler and author his last book History of Carp Fishing Revisited is a great book and a very interesting read a angling classic in my opinion.

Kevin has been around a long time, hes an excellent researcher and writer and a very successful carp and all round specialist angler.

 

[noknot]

"Kevin has been around a long time, hes an excellent researcher and writer and a very successful carp and all round specialist angler."

Nearly as long as you Nick, how are you my friend?
Kev.
x

 

[The bad one]

*****y hell Kev you not owning up to knowing Nick are you? I try not to if at all possible

Who me, in print, when, where, I resent that accusation.....the reports were wholly inaccurate that appeared in the Manchester Evening News I was found not guilty on all charges. It's infamy, infamy I tell you

 

[noknot]

Manchester..............................Wheres that?..................Wales?

 

[neuvy]

I think it all depends on your definition of famous.

Famous people to me are those who have made a contribution to mankind, it's welfare, health, or progress.
People involved in curing the cancers, those who give their life over to helping peoples less fortunate, inventions that have changed peoples lives for the better. Certainly no one involved in the hobby that is fishing.

There does appear though to be a genre of fishing individuals who believe they are famous for some reasoning or other. Never quite got it myself though.

JP Could be wrong (often am) but I think that you're mixing up 'famous' with 'worthy'. Famous can mean anyone in the news regularly for any reason, good or bad. Like you I'd love it if all those people you mentioned making our lives better were applauded more often but being a nurse, an inventor, a surgeon, a carer, those things are just not as a sexy as being a soap actor, or an X-Factor contestant.
Youth has always been celebrated but now there is a rampant 'culture of youth', how many Greco-Roman statues have you seen of someone with a stick and a stoop? The problem is former civilisations and generations seem to have simultaneously celebrated what experience can bring to life, the experience and wisdom that age can bring to us is increasingly lost. Hence those who have spent years learning how to be excellent at something, are considered to be too old to be generally news worthy and thus will never be famous. Fortunately many people who are at the top in their chosen field, professional or otherwise, couldn't give a damn about fame, the personal satisfaction from doing something well is enough.
Fame is often short lived, being really talented and using that talent successfully or being really good at something can sustain us through a lifetime and that includes the thing that is fishing. mg:

 

[mark brailsford 2]

Thats a great post !

What I dislike is people who carry things over from one thread to another , but then I am not always sensible either , but it seems bad form. Paul Boote is often the victim of this , OK he is a bit spiky sometimes but fascinating to get his point of view , Ron's too , both sorely missed.

So Ron and PB might have various vendettas running around the net but to be honest I have never seen him start one - but then again I haven't read all his posts - so who knows. But that said I have often seen him join a post in all innocence and simply be attacked , like I said seems bad form when its carried over from one thread to another.

As for not retaliating , because its just words , OOh if only if it were that easy to resist ! ( Quick someone is wrong on the internet ! ) I can't resist especially if I had a beer , some can and see it for what it is - just words on the net that don't , or shouldnt really matter , but some of us get too involved , are too drunk , too silly , too bored to resist , or be offended.

Benny,
There are some folk on here that for some reason or other don't like Ron and it shows in the posts he replies to. As for PB well he just winds folk up with his rants (me included!) but as you say it is only words.
I have been known to wind up some folk on here about certain subjects (DC Tackle!) but it's mostly tongue in cheek as I really am a nice chap, soft as a brush (especially after 5 pints of Abbydale Absolution ) and I have never intentionally set out to upset anyone on here...Well, there was one guy that got my goat but that warty amphibian seem to have took the hint and jumped back in to his pond!