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Alan Tyler

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Sadly, I tend to be patient when I ought to be trying something different, and ringing the changes when I ought to sit it out.

Trotter2, the replacement caps that Garry Mills makes have a straight taper to the centre part, rather than a bell-curve, which I agree makes them look a tad utilitarian, but they are made of a much tougher plastic and should "see you out". Well worth it to salvage a decent "user" Rap or Trudi.
 

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Sadly, I tend to be patient when I ought to be trying something different, and ringing the changes when I ought to sit it out.


Tell me about it....I often stick to the float and catching very little but knowing full well that a static bait would catch me a net full. I just like watching the float I suppose :).
 
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Sadly, I tend to be patient when I ought to be trying something different, and ringing the changes when I ought to sit it out.

Trotter2, the replacement caps that Garry Mills makes have a straight taper to the centre part, rather than a bell-curve, which I agree makes them look a tad utilitarian, but they are made of a much tougher plastic and should "see you out". Well worth it to salvage a decent "user" Rap or Trudi.

Yes I know the mills jobs are a softer plastic the original ones are more like a bakelite plastic very hard. So the replacements should not snap as easy.
Still don't like them they look rubbish. But if you need one there is not much option mate.
 

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Allcocks Match Aerials, the centrepin that should come with a free precision screwdriver.
I've owned four over the years, not one of them has run straight, drop dead gorgeous looks but there is only so much Sunday night faffing a bloke can put up with.
They can certainly spin, my first was well well used but after a clean up and a drop of sewing machine oil me and my brother watched it go for eight minutes.
The start up is not at all bad with the aforementioned two swan chubbers, needs starting in slower flows but keeps on going.
There is an early John Wilson Go Fishing episode, on my DVD it's called Go Fishing Masterclass, with introductions from **** Walker no less.
John is trotting a narrow stream for roach and can clearly be seen pulling line off the reel to help it go through, in fact he comments on how the flow is not pulling the line from the reel as he would like.
Like any good true pin it's more forgiving when the first tentative steps are taken towards the Wallis cast, or some bowdlerised version of it.
It purrs along like a Bentley at a steady 50mph rather than the 0-60 in 3 seconds Pagini Zonda of some bearing reels.
It takes a bit of time and practice but eventually you can get the float sailing into the far blue yonder. Not that difficult, although those precious darlings who won't fish with anything made after WW1 seem to think it makes them some sort of Jedi.
With practice you can time stopping the line when casting with a closed face reel just before it hits the water, it straightens the rig and has the float entering perfectly silently. It's not the basis for a religion though.
 

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Allcocks Match Aerials, the centrepin that should come with a free precision screwdriver.
I've owned four over the years, not one of them has run straight, drop dead gorgeous looks but there is only so much Sunday night faffing a bloke can put up with.
They can certainly spin, my first was well well used but after a clean up and a drop of sewing machine oil me and my brother watched it go for eight minutes.
The start up is not at all bad with the aforementioned two swan chubbers, needs starting in slower flows but keeps on going.
There is an early John Wilson Go Fishing episode, on my DVD it's called Go Fishing Masterclass, with introductions from **** Walker no less.
John is trotting a narrow stream for roach and can clearly be seen pulling line off the reel to help it go through, in fact he comments on how the flow is not pulling the line from the reel as he would like.
Like any good true pin it's more forgiving when the first tentative steps are taken towards the Wallis cast, or some bowdlerised version of it.
It purrs along like a Bentley at a steady 50mph rather than the 0-60 in 3 seconds Pagini Zonda of some bearing reels.
It takes a bit of time and practice but eventually you can get the float sailing into the far blue yonder. Not that difficult, although those precious darlings who won't fish with anything made after WW1 seem to think it makes them some sort of Jedi.
With practice you can time stopping the line when casting with a closed face reel just before it hits the water, it straightens the rig and has the float entering perfectly silently. It's not the basis for a religion though.



I've had three Allcocks match aerials, one is still brand new in it's box although I have had it out of the box and spun it round....it whizzes round with little inertia and for the best part a couple of minutes, considering the reel hasn't ever been used I think that's good. I have another one that I got for free, also boxed and unused but I have used it a few times now and the start up is next to nothing and it spins for for about 2 1/2min's with a good push. The other one I had I used a lot for a number of years and again the inertia needed to start it off rotating was next to nowt and it would spin for close to 5 min's on the right day (if laying flat on it's back) All the reels run true, and I never had to alter the end play on the one I used for all that time. I did sell the older used one but even after all that use and with the resulting paint loss etc I got a profit on what i'd paid for it :). My only gripe with the reels is the crappy paint used on them and the line crinkle / stick which often occurs after winding in a fish that pulls back hard, also if you leave your line on the reel after a session it suffers BAD line stick and the best solution is to put your hook into a post or other static object and walk it all off then wind it back on under a little tension....better still remove it after the session and replace with nice new senor-ible line :D.






I still have a 1915 allcock aerial and this reel is the most free running reel and has the lowest start up of any reels i've ever had, it is an impressive reel and over a hundred years old....amazin!



 

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I have had a Match Aerial for years and think it's a great reel, it was only when the centrepin experts told me it was rubbish that I doubted it's value :wh

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I also like a line guard and as I fish off the tip most of the time it works for me !!

Bob
 

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I think the reason why people say there rubbish is because they can't get used to the shallow arbour
It sorts the men from the boy's:D:)
Honestly it just practice great reels .
 

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Nice dace Ian..........................:)

Thank's bb, I remember that day, it was a small river and I was wandering the banks and dropping into likely looking spots. It seemed I caught a dace chub or perch on every trott and those fish were the result of about ten minutes of trotting. I don't use a keep net but left the landing net in the flow and swung the fish to hand...there had been several dace jump out before I took the pic.
Oh, I used 6lb sensor straight through lol ;).
 

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I have had a Match Aerial for years and think it's a great reel, it was only when the centrepin experts told me it was rubbish that I doubted it's value :wh


Bob


Well clearly Bob the centre pin experts were talking Bollox.

I have two Match Aerials, both run great, as soon as the paint started to come off, I just took the lot off. I now have two silver Match Aerials :D

All,

I was having a look at some pins in the shop today. One there is called Mad Fish. Same style as the Match Aerial, 1 inch wide drum, which i liked, spun very well, nice clutch, but the downside for me, was the round clutch knob on the back plate. Would have been much better had it had a knob you could just flick, rather than faff around turning.

Now looking on the web, i found the pins priced at £99.99, on the site I found them on, yet JohnsonRoss are selling them at £89.99. I didn't spend ages looking, and somewhere out there you might find them cheaper.

The one I spun in the shop seemed to be very well made, but if it stands the test of time, only time well tell. Is there anyone on FM who has one or used one ?
 

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I have read some very good reports about those reels Ray.

Crow,

I have also read good reports, but it would be nice if there was someone we knew had tried one out for a while. Like many reports about tackle etc, you wonder sometimes if the reports are from everyday anglers like FM members, or from someone involved with the company.

The reel had a nice weight about it also, vented back plate, but the blue on the inside of the drum by the spokes might have to come off :eek:mg:
 

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These MadFish pins look good, I have never seen one of them before so I would love to see if they stand the test of time and are as good as they look.

http://www.summerlands-tackle.co.uk/madfish-centrepin.html

It would be great if someone on here had bought one; someone who could give an honest and unbiased evaluation and comparison.

The spool looks like it has a solid drum (not spoked) but I'm not sure that the spool looks as solid as it could; an honest evaluation would be excellent.

Does anyone on here own one?

Also What is a fluid drum?

Keith
 
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Also What is a fluid drum?

Keith

Not sure on that Keith, I'm wondering why they're using a cereal grain to test the free running.

This from the description in the link...


The fluid drum rotates freely at the merest flick of a finger and a oat trotting the stream will take line uninterrupted and without resistance

Mighty impressive nevertheless, an oat can't weigh that much at all.

:D
 

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They look too much like the Nanny McFee and cortesi reels to me, the backplate looks the same, most likely all from the same manufacturer. Without ever even touching one or seeing one in the flesh I can confidently say I won't be buying one lol.
 
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What cracking fish Ian! I would be proud of any one of those. Great photos too; have you been having photography lessons from Binka?
 

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What cracking fish Ian! I would be proud of any one of those. Great photos too; have you been having photography lessons from Binka?

Thank's Mike, they're just a generic type of pic that I take with a cheap digi camera or my mobile blower, i'm deffo no photographer :).
Steve does take some excellent pic's and can take much better pic's than myself. Hopefully when I meet him he can give me a few tips....not on how to damage stuff either, I know he's an expert at destruction but i'm pretty good at that anyhow :eek:mg:.
 
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