Centrepins

[thecrow]

Not everything comes down to brass tacks.

For some of us it does Chris

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You probably won't see the differences in pins unless you get a posher one in hand.

That wont happen unless its someone elses.

 

[sam vimes]

For some of us it does Chris

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I appreciate that everyone has their own budget constraints to work within. However, that's not what I was getting at. With any consumer item, two blokes with similar price limitations will make different choices of what exactly to purchase. The purchase price alone is not the only consideration. If it were, we'd all be buying the same products.

That wont happen unless its someone elses.

Give it time, you might get to see a few in the not too distant future.

 

[nhs service]

I've always thought per hour the one man manufacturers are only getting paid a decent wage, probably less as their reputation rests on quality so they fuss over reels until they are happy to send them out.
I rang Cliff Adcock to order one of his new black centrepins and got an earful of his disgust at the state of the reels after they came back from anodising, believe it or not he compared it to defacing a Picasso.
I've suspected for some time there is a premium on some pins simply because the dreadful malaise known as centrepin snobbery makes it opportune to do so.
Personally, true pin or bearing, I couldn't care less, as long as it does the job, and therein lies the rub, production runs were usually small and supply and demand forces up prices.
All the best.

 

[tigger]

I've always thought per hour the one man manufacturers are only getting paid a decent wage, probably less as their reputation rests on quality so they fuss over reels until they are happy to send them out.
I rang Cliff Adcock to order one of his new black centrepins and got an earful of his disgust at the state of the reels after they came back from anodising, believe it or not he compared it to defacing a Picasso.
I've suspected for some time there is a premium on some pins simply because the dreadful malaise known as centrepin snobbery makes it opportune to do so.
Personally, true pin or bearing, I couldn't care less, as long as it does the job, and therein lies the rub, production runs were usually small and supply and demand forces up prices.
All the best.

I know lots of anglers can't seem to see the difference between a ball race reel and a bush and pin reel but there are a few subtle differences that can make a big difference to a trotting session in some conditions or venues. Ok they all do the job but they do the job in their own way . Chris Lythe bush and pin reels really are something else when you use them...and I know this sounds a little elitist...but you have to have got to a level in using a pin where you are going to feel/get the benefits of using one whilst casting and trotting with it.

 

[associatedmatt]

I having been looking on eBay and have found there are loads of vintage English pins , how do I know the quality from naff ones or are all English ones as good back in the day ?


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[itsfishingnotcatching]

Kingpin Zeppelin

Had to bl00dy Google these Chris, your as bad as PJ, you TART!!mg:

 

[tigger]

I having been looking on eBay and have found there are loads of vintage English pins , how do I know the quality from naff ones or are all English ones as good back in the day ?


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Matt, if your not well up on something ask someone for advice before you spend your cash .

 

[associatedmatt]

That's why was asking on here , thought a older English one would be better than a cheap Chinese one . Looking at some jw youngs pins


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[thecrow]

Is there a possibility that the bespoke expensive pins will be to free running?

 

[dave m]

i have bought a marco cortesi mk2 [£36 inc post] with line guard and having taken it apart and cleaned some microscopic swarf here and there and given the bearings a small squirt of the 3 in one spray oil [thinner than the can stuff] it now spins just by blowing on it so im sure its more than adequate for my humble needs.

i would have thought that the super free running pins might be more suited to fishing with lighter line and using smaller floats as the lighter pull on the line is then enough to easily draw more line from the spool.

when it comes to running a heavy loafer on thicker line when fishing for barbel then i would think there is a little less finesse required and almost any serviceable pin would do the job.

 

[nhs service]

It's true that the start up can be negated by using a heavier float set up.
In slower swims the float gets pulled off the trotting line as it crosses the current due to the reel not giving line quickly enough. I prefer a low start up and use my thumb to slow the reel down in the faster swims.
My own recommended list for user pins is the Adcock Stanton, Okuma Sheffield and Aventa Pro, Greys Bewick, the Swallow the Speedia and the Youngs Purists.
For close in fishing where retrieve rate is less important, the Rapidex and the Trudex, here I agree with tigger, find a good one of those and
It's true pin witchcraft.
I've ogled the Chris Lythe reels on his website and read the appreciation letters, no doubt about it, the bloke can knock up some decent cartwheels.
Most anglers are decent and honest, a lot of second hand pins are fine, sold for all the various reasons, however it's buyer beware obviously, you might be unlucky.
All the best.

 

[Bob Hornegold]

Is there a possibility that the bespoke expensive pins will be to free running?

No, they have adjusters to slow down the speed.

Bob

 

[thecrow]

No, they have adjusters to slow down the speed.

Bob[/QUOTE

Not all expensive pins do hence the question.

 

[tigger]

Is there a possibility that the bespoke expensive pins will be to free running?

I don't think there's such a thing as a reel that is too free running, the more free running the better for me, it's easy to slow one down to the desired speed .

 

[associatedmatt]

What are the jw Young trudex pins like , only want to use for trotting .


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[thecrow]

the more free running the better for me

That's the point, some like yourself like them to be free running while another angler I know that has used pins almost exclusively for over 30 years doesn't like them to be free running.

Looking on sites that sell used pins the seller always mentions that the reel spins for ages why this is I dont know as it bears no relation to an angling situation.

 

[associatedmatt]

A used pin in my opinion should be cleaned out and oiled as needed


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[tigger]

That's why was asking on here , thought a older English one would be better than a cheap Chinese one . Looking at some jw youngs pins


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Fair enough Matt but you'd need to say what exact reel your looking at as there's lots of good examples and lots of wrecks so it's impossible to advise you across the board if you get my meaning.
If your thinking of buying new then there are a few decent ball race reels available, the okuma Aventa pro, sheffield and Raw are superb reels and can be picked up for decent money second hand or new. Here's an example of a second hand ebay sale running at the moment....

OKUMA VT 1002 CENTREPIN REEL


It all depends on your budget as to what reel you get.

 

[Alan Tyler]

A good, run-in Trudex is a fine trotting reel. That's why so many were made, and why some were re-badged for other makers.
They're also pretty rugged, and well able to cope with barbel, pike and carp fishing.

 

[flightliner]

I,ve had several over the years but all gone now except my stanton and Trudex.