Does Bob Nudd have a brain at all?

[GrahamM]

I don't think it helps arguments by highlighting another controversial aspect of angling, but I think he's just making the point that the PAC could make such comments about Bob's branch of angling should they be so minded.

 

[Beecy]

Bob is not commenting on the way the PAC fish

 

[honslow]

Personally I don't think it's possible to have too many pike, only an imbalance of smaller pike caused by poor fishery management, ie taking out the bigger ones.
Most waters will find a natural balance between prey fish and predators. That is the view of most freshwater biologists and fishery managers, and they should know better than anglers.
We've had a number of hot summers without summer floods and the rivers are rammed with fry and silvers. As a result, all the predatory fish are doing very well. This time of the year always sees matchmen getting pestered by pike. If they don't like it they should fish commercials where there are no pike, or just accept that's the way natural waters are.
I personally think zander are another matter entirely, as they're a non-indigenous species. For people to turn around and say that zander don't have some kind of impact is rubbish. I suspect they alter the balance of a water by competing with other predators and thinning their numbers out. They probably don't affect silvers and preyfish that much though...
Just my opinion.
Maybe Bob needed some publicity and threw out a contraversial comment? If he believes what he's saying then maybe he should meet with the PAC to be 're-educated' (but leave the poor guy in one piece lads, he is four times world champion!).

 

[Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA-Life Member)]

Neville Fickling once termed the Sheffield/Barnsley/Rotherham/Doncaster/Worksop area as the "Killing Trangle".

This is actually quite true. If you are seen returning a pike in my area, you could end up in the water!

 

[posh chav]

BOB NUDD has been quoted as writing
"On my last visit to the Warwickshire Avon, the moment I started catching a few roach every other one was snatched as I brought it to the landing net."

Seems a lot? Before we go any further has anyone asked him to prove this claim or is ?exaggeration? going to be aloud to become 'fact' by repartition?
If its not literally true, will Mr Nudd be honest enough to print a retraction in the same comic?
Poshchav

"i do not try to make you look funny but rather show you how funny you already are." Ken Campbell

 

[Paul Christie]

CC I think you are stereotyping match anglers as numb yobs, who will see this as call to kill all pike they encounter.

There are a tiny percentage that might be so stupid, but that?s true of all types of fishing and society in general.

I?ve heard in the past of carp anglers killing bream because they continually picked up boilies not intended for them.

If we made assumptions that they?d all be at it, if a top carp man made a statement about there being too many bream about, would that be accepted as fair comment?

 

[Terry D]

I womder if PETA are rubbing their hands with glee for all the free ammunition we are supplying them. Any way we can get a point across without supplying gory details etc?

 

[captain carrott]

Paul do you spend a large ammount of time in the area mentioned by Ron if not you cannot comment.

i do go there i do know the effects this will have in that area.
The people from that are do travle quite widely to fish other places such as the trent, nene, fens, yorkshires rivers and lakes. pike in this area will be killed as a direct consequence of nudds comments.

There are a tiny percentage that might be so stupid.

it is not stupidity but deeply ingrained and intrenched ideology which has no basis in fact. much the same as a religion.

 

[Gary Knowles]

I have an idea that Bob will probably approve of.

Lets dam the rivers every 200 yards to make them fair sections for the matches.
Dredge any shallow or gravel sections
remove unessesary bankside vegetation
electrofish all predators out
remove all troublesome nuciance fish like roach, dace, barbel and chub
Stock with F1 carp

Proper river that!

 

[Gary Knowles]

Frankly I'm appaulled by his comments...

 

[Rodney Wrestt]

Ron,
I would never have thought that, but thinking about it, like Paul C I had heard (in the past) of pike, tench and bream being treated like that but not barbel,some people will do anything to enjoy their sport but I'll bet some of these same guys are now out trying to earn of the outsize members of these species.

 

[GrahamM]

Beecy: "Bob is not commenting on the way the PAC fish."

Maybe not, but he is commenting on something that will affect the way PAC fish. Which is worse.

 

[Wolfman Woody]

Sorry. Was going to post but can't be bothered now.

 

[Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA-Life Member)]

Only yesterday I asked a fellow angler on the Idle how he was doing.

He told me that he had hooked several roach but a bloody great pike kept nicking them off his hook.

And next time he came he was going to bring pike tackle and get the buggers out!

His words.

And I'll bet he will apply the old pike fishing rule too.

"Don't strike a pike until he has had your bait for at least 10 minutes - by your watch!"

 

[Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA-Life Member)]

Hey Barney!

Writing some years ago in the Angling Star, non other than Billy Makin wanted to dam the Severn and fill it full of F1s.

 

[Wolfman Woody]

From the FM report -
"Writing in the News of the World yesterday, the former World Champion matchman said:
?There are too many pike in our rivers and they need culling.
?On my last visit to the Warwickshire Avon, the moment I started catching a few roach every other one was snatched as I brought it to the landing net.?
Nudd went on: ?At a time when sport on so many of our rivers is starting to return big time, the last thing we need is shoals of pike depleting the stocks.
?Some will disagree but it makes sense to thin them out.?
"
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Please read the above again and again and tell me where Bob Nudd is advocating that every angler, match or otherwise, kills every pike he catches.

Please tell me where he's insisting that anglers "THROW" every pike up the bank.

I didn't reed the actual article and I'll bet that most of you commenting above haven't read it either. Also, one has to take into account that what Bob actually wrote is not what appeared in the paper - call it editor's prerogative.

I suggest that all the green eyed envious anglers that ever wished they'd made a bit of money out of angling like Bob has, has simply used to excuse to have a vicious pop at him.

If he did say exactly what is written in the FM report then what is wrong with it? I've fished a water before now exactly like that and we did remove a lot of small jack pike. Soemtimes nature gets out of hand and needs a bit of human intervention to help out.

Please use what intelligence you have and stop denouncing a bloke for expressing an opinion, an angler who's done more to promote angling in this country than most of you ever have.









There I finally expressed it now with swearing.

 

[captain carrott]

Please use what intelligence you have and stop denouncing a bloke for expressing an opinion.

an opinion which will result in some pike being thrown up the bank on his incitement.

small pike which would have fed a larger pike and now will not.
so the larger pike will eat big roach instead.
if you are quite happy to trade 2 2lb roach for a 5lb jack that's your perogative.

 

[BAZ (Angel of the North) aka Fester]

Woody.
Bob has not insisted that every angler should throw Pike up the bank.

What people on here are saying is that he does have his followers that will take him by his word where ever they fish.
As you know there are anglers about who fashion themselves on people like Bob Nudd and others.

One thing that is wrong what he said in the F.M. report is that he said it after fishing the water the one time (I Think). If he is not a regular on this water which he probably isn't, then he had no right to make that comment.

Bob Nudd is a fishing Icon and should have known better.

 

[BAZ (Angel of the North) aka Fester]

If Mathew Black or whatever his name is had said what B.Nudd did, I suppose that would be a different matter.

 

[Wolfman Woody]

"an opinion which will result in some pike being thrown up the bank on his incitement.
small pike which would have fed a larger pike and now will not."

That's two assumptions Jase. First that all angler think in that they should throw pike up the bank (do you). Secondly that you know there are plenty of bigger pike to eat the little ones. Now you've just done exactly what you've accused Bob Nudd of doing - assuming!


"Woody.
Bob has not insisted that every angler should throw Pike up the bank."

I never said he did Baz, everyone on here says that's what will happen. He did say "On my last visit to the Warwickshire Avon", which implies he's been many times before.

Read Baz, read! It's educational.



Matthew Black does not exist. He's a figment of someone's immagination, but his creator would be entitled to the same opinion if it was as well founded as Bob's appears to be.