peter crabtree
AKA Simon, 1953 - 2022 (RIP)
New thread surely..? Please..
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New thread surely..? Please..
Speaking of which can anybody who saw it tell me why the USA defender that clipped Ellen White's shooting leg for our penalty wasn't sent off ? If that wasn't a clear goalscoring opportunity I dont know what is. Pity there's no football equivalent of rugby's " penalty try".[/QUOTE]
No I cant,ridiculous.
No I cant,ridiculous.
wetthrough
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Mike forgot to mention that 6 of his 'paltry' total were good sized Carp and that probably 50% of mine were Rudd and as most will know, not catching Rudd is considerably more challenging than catching them! Just one small Common and one Mirror for me which interestingly took a Tare as did one that got away.
The Damsel fly was in my peg on and off, a striking looking insect to say the least. Looking forward to Friday
neil1970
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Went out for 3/4 of an hour yesterday evening after work and managed another lure caught Roach in between the tiny perch and solitary jack.
theartist
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Back to the Warks Avon without my boots yesterday as one is in the English channel somewhere right now. I thought I was going to end up there as well yesterday as a road closure and my subsequent bodged diversion took me right off course. I did go through some wonderful Cotswoldy villages that were well off the beaten track, a little bit of English magic even if I was dying to find the river. I do like an adventure after all and maybe a sat nav would have ruined all that I told myself as my phone bleeped and went dead on what was now a proper old school journey.
Despite a half an hour detour I arrived to find the swim where last time I had loads of chub empty so I was confident of a good chub day. Maybe it was the weather or they have moved but I couldn't get through the small stuff trotting maggots and the only highlight was an angry perch that was determined to take a bleak I had on, slurping it of the surface at the third or fourth attempt. It was quite a lean fish and looked much bigger in the water than the 1lb 11oz it weighed.
I moved to swim I knew was full of bleak so I changed to pellet in the hope of chub and roach and whilst the former were strangely absent the redfins turned up in style. It was hard work as it was the kind of swim where the float would only go under at more or less the same spot each run through but it was rewarding - 21 netters with most around the pound mark biggest going 1lb 7oz I only swung in 2 or 3 fish.
A few bream showed including a roach hybrid that spun on the surface and looked so roachy I had to do a double take, it would have been 3lb if I had weighed it but I didn't want to torment myself with that one. Pike turned up when a bit of cloud cover came but in between it was roach fun in the sun
Despite a half an hour detour I arrived to find the swim where last time I had loads of chub empty so I was confident of a good chub day. Maybe it was the weather or they have moved but I couldn't get through the small stuff trotting maggots and the only highlight was an angry perch that was determined to take a bleak I had on, slurping it of the surface at the third or fourth attempt. It was quite a lean fish and looked much bigger in the water than the 1lb 11oz it weighed.
I moved to swim I knew was full of bleak so I changed to pellet in the hope of chub and roach and whilst the former were strangely absent the redfins turned up in style. It was hard work as it was the kind of swim where the float would only go under at more or less the same spot each run through but it was rewarding - 21 netters with most around the pound mark biggest going 1lb 7oz I only swung in 2 or 3 fish.
A few bream showed including a roach hybrid that spun on the surface and looked so roachy I had to do a double take, it would have been 3lb if I had weighed it but I didn't want to torment myself with that one. Pike turned up when a bit of cloud cover came but in between it was roach fun in the sun
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peter crabtree
AKA Simon, 1953 - 2022 (RIP)
GUC Tring station was the scene of last nights evening fixture. A fairly narrow stretch with little in the way of far bank features.
Just 7 of us fished due to holidays and the top 5 in the league looking uncatchable..
It was a walk off as usual and I drew 1 so I made straight for a sunken tree which looked promising but awkward. I opted to fish behind the snag which was taking a big risk but I figured I could pull any fish out to the left into open water.
I fed a good pot of chopped worm and casters in the spot, you can just see my yellow tip float above, and left it for 10 minutes while I tried punch and liquy away to the left. Had a couple of small roach immediately but I got tempted away to the other line fairly quickly. I dropped my rig in with half a Dendra and a caster on a 16B611.
It wasn’t long before the float buried.
A bream headed straight for the snag ripping elastic out so I pulled hard to my left and it jumped out of the water and over to my side of the snag with a splash.
Second put in an immediate bite and another tussle ensued, this time things went to plan and I steered it away from the sunken branch.
A good start but I think those 2 bream were the only ones there, my hopes for a shoal were dashed. During the final 2 hours small roach, perch and a ruff were the only bites.
It was a struggle for the rest too, only one beat me with 4:5:0 with my 3:10:0 coming 2nd once again. Still, valuable points for the league and an enjoyable evening’s fishing....
Just 7 of us fished due to holidays and the top 5 in the league looking uncatchable..
It was a walk off as usual and I drew 1 so I made straight for a sunken tree which looked promising but awkward. I opted to fish behind the snag which was taking a big risk but I figured I could pull any fish out to the left into open water.
I fed a good pot of chopped worm and casters in the spot, you can just see my yellow tip float above, and left it for 10 minutes while I tried punch and liquy away to the left. Had a couple of small roach immediately but I got tempted away to the other line fairly quickly. I dropped my rig in with half a Dendra and a caster on a 16B611.
It wasn’t long before the float buried.
A bream headed straight for the snag ripping elastic out so I pulled hard to my left and it jumped out of the water and over to my side of the snag with a splash.
Second put in an immediate bite and another tussle ensued, this time things went to plan and I steered it away from the sunken branch.
A good start but I think those 2 bream were the only ones there, my hopes for a shoal were dashed. During the final 2 hours small roach, perch and a ruff were the only bites.
It was a struggle for the rest too, only one beat me with 4:5:0 with my 3:10:0 coming 2nd once again. Still, valuable points for the league and an enjoyable evening’s fishing....
mikench
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I was up early and set off for my current favourite water with a cunning plan in mind. Last Sunday I reverted to floater fishing by basically freelining a floating dog biscuit. I enticed about 8 carp to take my bait and enjoyed the experience. My Titan coped admirably but was probably not the best tool for the job. So today I took a pellet waggler rod, a white Stradic 4000 with 8lb line, a controller float (15g) and a pile of dog biscuits.
I thought a fluorocarbon hook length would be suitable being alledgedly invisible but it sank even with an application of mucilin.
I then made a 5' hooklength out of Drennan float fish with a mucilin application and this stayed floating and the bait wasn't drawn to the float. The carp were cruising and taking all the freebies but they didn't want to know my hookbait at all. At one point my hookbait and 5 freebies provoked a frenzy of carp. As it dissipated only my hookbait remained.
I returned to my Titan and punch as hook bait and immediately had a carp on the drop. I had 30 fish all told mainly roach to 8oz , gudgeon and skimmers. I do like gudgeon and hate small perch. They swallow whatever bait presented to them even when you strike at the earliest opportunity. Are big perch the same? A lovely day nonetheless and perfect weather.
Hope to get out again on Friday.
I thought a fluorocarbon hook length would be suitable being alledgedly invisible but it sank even with an application of mucilin.
I then made a 5' hooklength out of Drennan float fish with a mucilin application and this stayed floating and the bait wasn't drawn to the float. The carp were cruising and taking all the freebies but they didn't want to know my hookbait at all. At one point my hookbait and 5 freebies provoked a frenzy of carp. As it dissipated only my hookbait remained.
I returned to my Titan and punch as hook bait and immediately had a carp on the drop. I had 30 fish all told mainly roach to 8oz , gudgeon and skimmers. I do like gudgeon and hate small perch. They swallow whatever bait presented to them even when you strike at the earliest opportunity. Are big perch the same? A lovely day nonetheless and perfect weather.
Hope to get out again on Friday.
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theartist
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No Big Perch don't swallow your bait like without you knowing but they will wolf down your Gudgeon
Re the tiny ones swallowing bait try a dust shot a few inches from your hook, with the float dotted down and fish exactly dead depth that way the float WILL move with any movement of the bait
mikench
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Thanks Rob; cracking perch by the way.
bennygesserit
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Went to Coppice again today , Chair broke again ! ( Hey fatty Bum Bum )
Got there mid afternoon and already had some swirls in my margin so leaned up against a tree , in the shade and well back from the edge and fished a float off the tip and maggots ( without feeding anything ) had a few roach and something big took my bait but the hook pulled.
Started feeding a few maggots at a time and this seemed to increase the activity in the margin , still sat well back.
I seemed to be missing bites on the float so switched to a bomb ( made semi fixed by a drennan float stop ) fished a banded pellet but fed maggots , one hook up but the hook pulled
changed to a shorter hook length ( still banded ) nothing
Switched to side hooked maggots couple of roach
switch to side hooked maggots and a much smaller hook size ( 18 ) immediate pick up , massive swirl , hook length immediately broke ( thought I was OK with 4lb obviously not )
Soooo.....
fed a greater number of maggots , short hook length , around a 16 wide gape hook to about 7lb length , side hooked maggots on a bomb plopped in the margins , line neither slack or tight
Maybe it was the time of day but BAM , had one about 8 lb then one about 10 then one that seemed to big for the net that night have gone 12 , all 3 took a load off line when they took off and , even though I coaxed them into the net by putting my rod in the water they all made several runs once they got close to the bank.
An enjoyable afternoon sat in the shade propped up against a tree feeding a tame duck maggots.
Got there mid afternoon and already had some swirls in my margin so leaned up against a tree , in the shade and well back from the edge and fished a float off the tip and maggots ( without feeding anything ) had a few roach and something big took my bait but the hook pulled.
Started feeding a few maggots at a time and this seemed to increase the activity in the margin , still sat well back.
I seemed to be missing bites on the float so switched to a bomb ( made semi fixed by a drennan float stop ) fished a banded pellet but fed maggots , one hook up but the hook pulled
changed to a shorter hook length ( still banded ) nothing
Switched to side hooked maggots couple of roach
switch to side hooked maggots and a much smaller hook size ( 18 ) immediate pick up , massive swirl , hook length immediately broke ( thought I was OK with 4lb obviously not )
Soooo.....
fed a greater number of maggots , short hook length , around a 16 wide gape hook to about 7lb length , side hooked maggots on a bomb plopped in the margins , line neither slack or tight
Maybe it was the time of day but BAM , had one about 8 lb then one about 10 then one that seemed to big for the net that night have gone 12 , all 3 took a load off line when they took off and , even though I coaxed them into the net by putting my rod in the water they all made several runs once they got close to the bank.
An enjoyable afternoon sat in the shade propped up against a tree feeding a tame duck maggots.
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Fluoro is denser than mono Mike, hence will sink a lot quicker than mono.
I had exactly the same issue Saturday and have done many times previous. Keep feeding with hookbait out of water, confidence grows and the possibility of dropping their guard grows as well. Changing the way your hook is presented sometimes works too when they are being wily, gluing it to the biscuit for example.
Having said that none of the above worked for me on Saturday until I changed to bread with almost instant success.
Went to the small local pond I had a great day in last week, went with my 9 year old daughter after school and am in the bad books for coming home late on a school night! Lost count of the tiny roach we caught, switched hook bait several times but they hit everything. Emily was thrilled with a little roach a cast, I went looking for bigger quarry. Cubes of curry meat? Tiny roach! Huge lobworm tipped with sweetcorn? Tiny roach! Massive pinch of bread flake? Tiny roach! Had one nice roach on triple maggot, and lost 3 larger fish, carp I'm guessing.
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Emily caught the first of the night.
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The biggest of the bunch.
The bites dried up about 7:30, then we hit into a shoal of even smaller perch!
Treble maggot on size 14's and we hit one each cast.
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Emily's first ever perch.
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The triple maggots weighed more!
An enjoyable evening, I'm a bit gutted at losing all three larger fish, but it's great fun for a very proud nine year old!
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Emily caught the first of the night.
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The biggest of the bunch.
The bites dried up about 7:30, then we hit into a shoal of even smaller perch!
Treble maggot on size 14's and we hit one each cast.
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Emily's first ever perch.
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The triple maggots weighed more!
An enjoyable evening, I'm a bit gutted at losing all three larger fish, but it's great fun for a very proud nine year old!
I was up early and set off for my current favourite water with a cunning plan in mind. Last Sunday I reverted to floater fishing by basically freelining a floating dog biscuit. I enticed about 8 carp to take my bait and enjoyed the experience. My Titan coped admirably but was probably not the best tool for the job. So today I took a pellet waggler rod, a white Stradic 4000 with 8lb line, a controller float (15g) and a pile of dog biscuits.
I thought a fluorocarbon hook length would be suitable being alledgedly invisible but it sank even with an application of mucilin.
I then made a 5' hooklength out of Drennan float fish with a mucilin application and this stayed floating and the bait wasn't drawn to the float. The carp were cruising and taking all the freebies but they didn't want to know my hookbait at all. At one point my hookbait and 5 freebies provoked a frenzy of carp. As it dissipated only my hookbait remained.
I returned to my Titan and punch as hook bait and immediately had a carp on the drop. I had 30 fish all told mainly roach to 8oz , gudgeon and skimmers. I do like gudgeon and hate small perch. They swallow whatever bait presented to them even when you strike at the earliest opportunity. Are big perch the same? A lovely day nonetheless and perfect weather.
Hope to get out again on Friday.
Mike,you don't mention the bs of your hooklink,it's quite critical on commercial type fisheries,I find five-six poundish silstar matchteam,or drennan double strength give extra bites,another ploy is to free line,feeding five or six biscuits in an upwind close positions allowing them to drift,or be taken,only re-feeding when bait is taken and only the amount that has been taken,get them feeding confidently and as close as possible,then flick your bait in amongst them,takes are normally pretty quick,however it they are really crafty and turning away,as the fish come up to look gently ease it away from them,that often gets a vigorous response.
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I went for a post school dibble on the local pool with my eldest a couple of days ago. We weren’t catching many silvers like we normally do and then I realised why.
A small pike shot out of the Lilies we were fishing next to and gobbled a little roach I had just thrown back. I put a little jelly roach imitation and a light wire trace on my little un’s set up and no sooner did he drop it in, Jack was reeling in a Jack of his own.
After this little fella was put back at the other side of the pool where nobody was fishing, we started getting one a cast again.
Yesterday I went back for a stint of floating bait for carp. I tried dog biscuits and bread over a couple hours and while every single bread freebie was being scoffed I never got a single take on my hook bait.
My first total blank of the year! It’s really made me want to look at my surface fishing tactics and end tackle.
A small pike shot out of the Lilies we were fishing next to and gobbled a little roach I had just thrown back. I put a little jelly roach imitation and a light wire trace on my little un’s set up and no sooner did he drop it in, Jack was reeling in a Jack of his own.
After this little fella was put back at the other side of the pool where nobody was fishing, we started getting one a cast again.
Yesterday I went back for a stint of floating bait for carp. I tried dog biscuits and bread over a couple hours and while every single bread freebie was being scoffed I never got a single take on my hook bait.
My first total blank of the year! It’s really made me want to look at my surface fishing tactics and end tackle.
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mikench
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Alan my hooklink was 5lb Drennan Floatfish. I realise now that my fluro hooklength was unsuitable. Next time out I'll just freeline bread or dog biscuits. Basic is best as in most things in life. Have you tried that float yet or are you still building up to it?
barbelboi
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Today was a break in the usual stroll across the fields to fish the local river/streams and made the drive down south to check out a quiet stretch of the Great Ouse that we hadn’t fished for over a year. After the 25 minute drive along the lanes and a few hundred yards of tractor track we reached the river and cut a path through the vegetation to the proximity of the bank. Typical Ouse, clear, low and virtually no flow – just what you want for trotting a stick.........
Bait was to be reds trotted (very slowly) in around 5’ depth with the bulk about 14 inches from the hook to help get past the bleak – and, for most of the time, get it to the minnows. I don’t remember ever catching more than 50 of the bu99ers in a 5 hour session before. Although some were quite chunky for the species I took a pic of what must have been one of the smallest. After a couple of hours, around midday, some dace arrived to make a change and then, around 1.30 the dace made way for a shoal of (just about) nettable roach.
Fished from 10 – 3pm in 25C of non stop sunshine – we’ve decided to make the trip to the Ouse again sometime next week but to fish a white water stretch further upstream
Bait was to be reds trotted (very slowly) in around 5’ depth with the bulk about 14 inches from the hook to help get past the bleak – and, for most of the time, get it to the minnows. I don’t remember ever catching more than 50 of the bu99ers in a 5 hour session before. Although some were quite chunky for the species I took a pic of what must have been one of the smallest. After a couple of hours, around midday, some dace arrived to make a change and then, around 1.30 the dace made way for a shoal of (just about) nettable roach.
Fished from 10 – 3pm in 25C of non stop sunshine – we’ve decided to make the trip to the Ouse again sometime next week but to fish a white water stretch further upstream
I have just returned from what I can only describe as a two night grueller. I fancied a trip with bivvy where I could park with all my clutter next to my swim. It was a picturesque secure large lake with vehicular access, toilet block and lots of carp.
I BLANKED. I chose the end with the wind blowing and in fact I could see lots of big carp swimming close in, in the crystal clear weedy water. There were in my estimation about 30 anglers round the lake. From what I could see there must have been tons of boilies going in by spod/boat and catapault. This was two mid week days. I can only surmise this must be happening every day from April to October.
No wonder the fish are well fed and disinclined to eat anything I presented. Well thats my excuse anyway. Asking around there were only 3 fish caught over the two nights and days.
That must be the first time I have seen fish so well fed they totally ignored even pieces of floating bread.
Never to old to learn! You would have thought at 70 I wouldn't be so naive. I will go back to my own waters in future even if that means busting a gut with my barrow for a couple of days break.
I did get a good top up of my tan though.
I BLANKED. I chose the end with the wind blowing and in fact I could see lots of big carp swimming close in, in the crystal clear weedy water. There were in my estimation about 30 anglers round the lake. From what I could see there must have been tons of boilies going in by spod/boat and catapault. This was two mid week days. I can only surmise this must be happening every day from April to October.
No wonder the fish are well fed and disinclined to eat anything I presented. Well thats my excuse anyway. Asking around there were only 3 fish caught over the two nights and days.
That must be the first time I have seen fish so well fed they totally ignored even pieces of floating bread.
Never to old to learn! You would have thought at 70 I wouldn't be so naive. I will go back to my own waters in future even if that means busting a gut with my barrow for a couple of days break.
I did get a good top up of my tan though.
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seth49
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Back on the old fishery today, fancied catching some silvers for a change, instead of carp all the time, arrived at nine o clock, and had a walk round to pick a couple of swims, and talk to the other fisherman, and see what’s being caught.
I picked a swim I’ve fished many times, and mick picked one three swims away, decided to fish my pole about six metres out, and I also fed the left hand margin, as a few carp usually turn up later, fed a few two mm pellets and a few grains of corn, I’d soaked some of the Sonu baits expert pellets overnight, 6mm to which I added some robin red oil when I’d drained them, and some 8 mm which I left as they were, like these pellets nearly everything will have a go at them.
Started catching a few skimmers and then began catching some nice roach, they seemed to like the robin red flavour, and they all needed netting.
Then noticed a carp in the margin so changed top kits, and had a go with one of the eight mm pellets, after a few minutes the float buried and I had it on, gave me a good fight too, had to put an extra section on, when it shot of, took me a while to get it close enough to net.
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A couple of the roach.
Finished with a total of twenty five silvers, mainly roach, and one carp about seven pounds, so a good day enjoyed it, nice to fish the pole again.
I picked a swim I’ve fished many times, and mick picked one three swims away, decided to fish my pole about six metres out, and I also fed the left hand margin, as a few carp usually turn up later, fed a few two mm pellets and a few grains of corn, I’d soaked some of the Sonu baits expert pellets overnight, 6mm to which I added some robin red oil when I’d drained them, and some 8 mm which I left as they were, like these pellets nearly everything will have a go at them.
Started catching a few skimmers and then began catching some nice roach, they seemed to like the robin red flavour, and they all needed netting.
Then noticed a carp in the margin so changed top kits, and had a go with one of the eight mm pellets, after a few minutes the float buried and I had it on, gave me a good fight too, had to put an extra section on, when it shot of, took me a while to get it close enough to net.
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A couple of the roach.
Finished with a total of twenty five silvers, mainly roach, and one carp about seven pounds, so a good day enjoyed it, nice to fish the pole again.