Re: Martin Gay's Historic Carp Captures - THIS is 'Overwhelming Evidence'...
Who altered the photographs that are now apparently disposed of.
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Now THAT is key to everything.
The unedited photos may still exist and could potentially be the only evidence that can solve this saga conclusivly.
Make NO mistake...Eddie and Mr Hatton have consistantly been evasive when it comes to either thier whereabouts or left out details about thier contents.
If either of them wish to deny this then i will happily cut and paste multiple examples from the threads to demonstrate.
If anyone wants to really get to the bottom of this then they should ignore the constant red herrings being thrown in which will only lead to more inconclusive heresay and focus only on the photos and thier wereabouts.
I have followed this discussion closely. To save people the effort of reading back i can tell you this is what we know about the photos whereabouts:
1. Mr Hatton said he had no idea where they were and suggested they could have been burnt.
2. He then later amended his story to authoritivly say that Yvonne Gay (martin Gays wife who actually took the photos) no longer has them.
...this is a good example of how it appears mr Hatton is misleading the discussion ....how can he have no idea were the photos are but at the same time be So utterly certain Yvonne Gay no longer has them?
...care to explain that mr Hatton ?
3. Eddie Benham said he spoke to Yvonne Gay about the photos..he told us she said she had "disposed" of them and that was the end of that and no one would ever see them.
I pressed Eddie multiple times on what "disposed of" actually means? ....did it mean they no longer exist? ....Eddie was tremendously evasive on this...its there for anyone to see on the other thread. Mr Hatton waded in as well ...accusing me of a personal problem with Eddie and saying thing such as "disposed of means disposed of!" And telling me thats all i would be getting. Dispite the insults & accusations i continued to push on this point...pressing Eddie to tell us what EXACTLY Yvonne Gay said to him when he asked her about the photos..and lo and behold..Eddie changed his story and admitted she did not say "disposed of" ...and amended it to now say she "no longer has them"....aligning now you will note with mr Hattons statements.
I have since consistantly pressed Eddie to tell us what EXACTLY (word for word) Yvonne Gay said to him when he asked her about the photos. He has thus far failed to tell us. I also draw attention to the fact this a fairly recent event..weeks...so it should be fresh indeed in his memory..no 25 year memory issues on this one.
Mr Hatton on the other hand had consistantly refused to anwser the question of how he knows Yvonne Gay no longer had the photos or more crucially...if he knows were they may be now...all he tells us is that no ones going to see them ever!
....how does Mr Hatton know this? ...if he has no idea where they are how can he so conclusivly tell us no one will ever see them?
Care to explain that Mr Hatton?
What we can draw from all this is the photos potentially still exist and Yvonne Gay was the last person we can say with certainty had them (as she took them so must have had them). We dont know what she said to Eddie about them when he asked and we dont know if she destroyed them, kept them or...Maybe...passed them onto someone else....a close family friend perhaps?
We also need to consider why mr Hatton CLEARLY alluded to the presence of a stack of canoes in the background of the photos on a different website but failed to make any mention of them at any point here. Simply brushing people off with comments about the background containing scrubland and little else.
The other point that seems strange is that if mr Hatton is so certain of the uk argument then surely tracking down the unedited photos offers his best and only hope of proving it. Why focus so much effort on debunking the CS claims but so easily dismiss anything about tracking down the photos which could prove what he says and debunk the CS claims at the same time?
If Eddie or mr Hatton wish to contest any of the above i can demonstrate what i am saying with cut and pasted quotes from them.
