bryan , i'm glad you got one from there ,i could see them milling around there in the shade and occasionally taking the odd natural off the surface (usually right next to mine) I just couldn't get them too take ,probably poor choce of fly or what ever but still fun trying ,strangest thing was ,my casting was better when sat down to get under the branches than when i was standing ! casting strait out /forum/smilies/disappointed_smiley.gif, mind you every year after the fishinI always swear i'm going to put some casting practce in or get some lessons to sort it out ! (well thats the trouble with being self taught too many bad habits ! ,lack of timng & rythem) but i never do ,I might just do it this year?