I will be buying some eyed hooks too so I will have to see how they compare. I have to say though.... I do like the way those spades hang! ?Good stuff.
I notice one of the patterns you went for seems to be the Guru LWG barbless, the interesting thing is that appears to be one of the patterns of hooks available in sizes down to at least 20 in both spade and eye versions.. Both also appear to have the same wire gauge too. I think anyway.
This means an unbiased comparison could be made between the exact same hook in eyed & spade should you wish by getting the eyed version as well and fishing both of them e.g fish 2 rods or swapping the hook in the session etc etc to see if you notice any difference. Obviously we probably cannot determine much over just 1 session but it could be interesting/fun to try never the less.
As you started the thread asking which is best I would imagine you are going to be unbiased in their apprasial as well.
A picture as they say paints a thousand words. It would be interesting to see how the fish react to the difference between these. Its also worth noting that the photo below has no scale so we dont know what size or magnifycation is going on here. Obviously the actual physical difference becomes smaller & smaller as the hooks size goes down ;
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I'll be buying more soon and fishing when it warms up. Not sure I would be able to tie anything smaller than a 16 spade. I got fat fingersYes whipped knots do look nice.
It would actually be great for you to give the two a go because as I say I think as you started the thread asking which is best your going to be pretty fair about it plus its a bit of fun too.
I will have to look for some 20s. The smallest I seen on the Drennan display were 18s and they looked ridiculously small. The 4lb line is like cotton....Use eyed ...as you have more choice of knots so might be able to find one that you can tie in the cold with fat fingers below size 16.
...you have just highlighted one advantage of eyes over spades btw..
The Guru 20s are quite big compared to Drennan 20s, more like 18sI will have to look for some 20s.
Guru LWG
20s eyed 0.326 spade 0.325
18s Eyed 0.371 spade 0.353
16s Eyed 0.386 spade 0.370
14s Eyed 0.429 spade 0.436
Measured across the bend.
Guru LWG
20s eyed 0.326 spade 0.325
18s Eyed 0.371 spade 0.353
16s Eyed 0.386 spade 0.370
14s Eyed 0.429 spade 0.436
Measured across the bend.
What have I become..... ?
I can and will tomorrow, I've put them all away now. I might not have ten of each though so will just have to weight what I can.
My bass and Pollock lure collection already shows this.... ?A retailers dream come true
Agree with this.Cheers, Gordon. Here's a point about the claim that knots through an eye must be better than knots whipped below a spade.
Take a very fine wire hook, like Kamasan B511. On the market for years, a favourite of eg anglers fishing hemp on the drop for roach.
In practice, even with very fine lines, if you overload this set up, either the hook will open up or the hooklength break a distance from the hook.
I've had both happen, as have most. But I can't remember the whipping knot itself failing. Conclusion? That knot is already more than strong enough for the hook and line, and no need to fret over it. You need to judge what is a good enough knot with reference to the things that are being knotted.
and line, and no need to fret over it. You need to judge what is a good enough knot with reference to the things that are being knotted.
Cheers, Gordon. Here's a point about the claim that knots through an eye must be better than knots whipped below a spade.