Hitting the Eastern European problem head on, morality v’s self interest?

Nobby C (ACA)

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By removing certain words from the English language ( remember languages evolve all the time ) those of us in the PCmovement simply aim to create a society freed from the colonial terrors of our past.

Well it aint working so why doesn't the PC movement bu**er off and mind it's own business? Like the country or world needs more nanny state imposed rules telling us how we are required to live.
Colonial terrors of the past? Seriously? Yeah, there's no neo colonialism going on now worldwide is there?
Good grief.:eek:mg:
Sorry Benny, doubtless you feel your lofty,liberal and h'intellectual position gives you the right to patronise others who never asked for your assistance but frankly, it's an imposition that is neither required or necessary.
That sort of attitude is part of the problem, not the solution.IMO.:mad:
 

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. . . . which would be wholly impractical given the vast geographical discrepencies bewteeen member Countries

I am not so sure-The Eu would love to get their hands on the cash, "a pure guess" 30 million licenses at £30 a throw. A uniform close season law with some regional differences for climate. The rest of it no problem, hook types, landing net sizes, mesh sizes, fish removal numbers, etc etc. No reason why those sort of regulations could not apply across the EU.
I am surprised this has not happened to be honest given the ways of the EU for wanting to uniformly regulate law and income/money. I can see it coming and some advantages in it. However, it would cause a big stir.
 
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The Carte de Peche is €94 a year over here Peter. Multiply that by between one and two million pecheurs.
 

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By removing certain words from the English language ( remember languages evolve all the time ) those of us in the PCmovement simply aim to create a society freed from the colonial terrors of our past.

Such as ??? would White, English, Great Britain, be some of them no doubt cus there are plenty that we need to ensure they remain i wont list them here get me nuts fried if i did :wh

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Such as ??? would White, English, Great Britain, be some of them no doubt cus there are plenty that we need to ensure they remain i wont list them here get me nuts fried if i did :wh

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I really thought my comment was so ironic that no one would , for even a minute , fall for it - I will try and make it more obvious next time.
 

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No back pedaling necessary, you can always edit/delete your post. All the others preceding it too that also outline you PC genuflecting stance.
I'm not going to apologise this time, the line has been drawn, and when your waters have been decimated you can reply with another excuse.
The only positive here is you don't reflect other anglers views.
How on earth will angling survive when the apologists keep shooting themselves and the rest of us in the foot.
 

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I really thought my comment was so ironic that no one would , for even a minute , fall for it - I will try and make it more obvious next time.

Sounds like a Politically Correct cover up to me.......

I think you need to understand Benny that Political Correctness in it's "intended" form is fine....but the trouble is......Like Racism and Health and Safety the "intended" form of all these issues is too often abused, taken out of all proportion, administered incorrectly and are always full of added inconsistencies and half truths......and all usually committed by the instigators themselves. They finish up making a mockery of them all.....MOST people then refuse to tolerate any of them....which makes the situation far worse than it were when we started.

....what a complete waste of time and money......the lunatics are finally running the asylum.

Maverick
 
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No back pedaling necessary, you can always edit/delete your post. All the others preceding it too that also outline you PC genuflecting stance.
I'm not going to apologise this time, the line has been drawn, and when your waters have been decimated you can reply with another excuse.
The only positive here is you don't reflect other anglers views.
How on earth will angling survive when the apologists keep shooting themselves and the rest of us in the foot.

No one is apologising or back pedalling i guess some of the arguments are just too subtle for you or you don't actually read what people say , for instance have said on numerous occaisions thar I am all for prosecution of any criminal. Given the amount of crime I see on my estate though I honestly dont rate poaching as top of the list. If you want to rant and rave semi incoherently on a fishing forum about it then good for you I hope you have fun with it.

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Sounds like a Politically Correct cover up to me.......

I think you need to understand Benny that Political Correctness in it's "intended" form is fine....but the trouble is......Like Racism and Health and Safety the "intended" form of all these issues is too often abused, taken out of all proportion, administered incorrectly and are always full of added inconsistencies and half truths......and all usually committed by the instigators themselves. They finish up making a mockery of them all.....MOST people then refuse to tolerate any of them....which brings us back to where we started.

....what a complete waste of time and money

Maverick

Covering up what ? There isnt anything to cover up I made an outrageous statement and you fell for it because you read what you wanted to read. I think some of you have lost all sense of perspective there is no PC brigade it only exists on the front of the daily mail.
 

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By removing certain words from the English language ( remember languages evolve all the time ) those of us in the PCmovement simply aim to create a society freed from the colonial terrors of our past.

I don't subscribe to PC, seems like a very poor defense, a chink in the armour of the imposter, so now that people are away from the pub's in numbers and unable to discuss the things that ARE really happening as opposed to being told how to think in print?
We are nearly home lad.

What has the truth to fear from any scrutiny? We do want the truth don't we?

An otherwise good debate is already muzzled here there and everywhere before it can even get past the PC to arrive at the meat of the issue, never mind getting close to ever chewing the fat over a pint?

EE or any poacher = common thief?

awww, give them some gloves man, don't be so tight that you let their dainty little fingers get frost bitten on the net retrieval, give them a hand hauling their catch in? Poachers rights...bend to it man! cast a vote so you can't cast a line LOL.

If you want to win an argument just throw in the word racist, works every time, people are so scared of being called a racist they will indulge the PC induced miscegenation and forfeit everything including the honor of their parents in the process.
PC is deadly.

Being British, accommodating and a mug has its disadvantages.

Colonialism? Which one? Ottoman empire? Spain?

Another PC induced guilt trip to render us as a bunch of pacifist twee pen pushers who look up to the giant pander as a role model.

If we are going to be fair on all accounts

1.) I'm not responsible for what people did or did not do prior to my own birth as historians with selective account wish to remind me of, its BS.
2.) The guilt complex just doesn't work on me anymore either, I came to realise that I'm from the same stock that built the civilized world, that same way of life one that everyone wants a piece of but are first to complain about or wish to re-shape it, all the while keeping a stricter affinity to its offerings of peace, security, only bringing the financial exploitation, crime wave and epidemic rape stats as side dishes to the civilized table... make no mistake, it will die with us (along with the fish) if we are not able to maintain it, so why actively destroy it using PC? Who for? PC is a destroyer.

PC? What f*&^%#@@$#%$^% time is that? Time we begin to talk like adults again, instead of adults giving other adults rules on language that were never needed in the first place.:D

Call a spade a spade, grow a pair and man up on the truth, wipe your arse with that dolls pram paper coz that's all it good for, our kid. :)
 
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Well I saw the irony, even if others failed to....:D

A consolation prize for a serious thread that was/is muzzled from the beginning more like :D

Go on dare say it like it is.....or do we need to get the permission from our equals, who get a bit upset when the sun goes behind a cloud for 10 seconds first?
 
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Used to have a hell of a problem in my part of Suffolk.... A building site situated on the river and a caravan 'park' of EE anglers. It was a fricken nightmare. Fixed lines, unattended tackle, traps - you name it. This must have been about 10 odd years back.

Doesn't seem to be a problem these days. I just constantly reported violations, removed traps and fixed lines - and they were picked up by our EA bailiff. Constant reporting does have a massive impact on the problem.

I know a few others did this too...

It works.

BTW. Got friendly with an angler from Lithuania.... Brilliant lure angler, wire traces - dedicated catch and release sport angler. Jeeze, these guys could each you a thing or two about lure angling!!!

A collection of ultra light plugs and lures. The very best IMO Stepanow hand made insect lures and the Hunter Bromba beetles. Both manufactured in Poland.

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Covering up what ? There isnt anything to cover up I made an outrageous statement and you fell for it because you read what you wanted to read. I think some of you have lost all sense of perspective there is no PC brigade it only exists on the front of the daily mail.

Benny....you are infamous for making outrageous statements...always have been...this most recent one isn't a patch on some of your past statements....now why wouldn't we take you serious on this occasion?

You dropped a clanger and you tried to cover it up with this ..."Well, you all fell for that one didn't you bu***hit".

.....yeah....right Benny.

Maverick
 

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Benny....you are infamous for making outrageous statements...always have been...this most recent one isn't a patch on some of your past statements....now why wouldn't we take you serious on this occasion?

You dropped a clanger and you tried to cover it up with this ..."Well, you all fell for that one didn't you bu***hit".

.....yeah....right Benny.

Maverick
That much is obvious. Back pedal away Benny, your not so subtle attempt at diversion hasn't worked. But do keep trying. ;)
 

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I don't need to back peddle on any of my views as , unlike yours , mine can be expressed freely on this forum. I don't have to hide mine , or hint at them , I can just say them. None of this "I would say this but I can't".
 
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