Bargains. Let us know.

[john step]

Laguna, yes who knows what is next. Hologram bands playing in front of you?

However I haven't a clue about all this blue tooth stuff. CDs seem about as far as I can go!

Maggot dangler, Maybe not the depth. Who knows, not me. As a hearing aid wearer I couldn't tell the differencemg:

 

[maggot_dangler]

Laguna, yes who knows what is next. Hologram bands playing in front of you?

However I haven't a clue about all this blue tooth stuff. CDs seem about as far as I can go!

Maggot dangler, Maybe not the depth. Who knows, not me. As a hearing aid wearer I couldn't tell the differencemg:

Yep point there but as someone that can hear it there is a very marked difference between CD & Vinyl .



PG ...

 

[davebhoy]

John, I thought CD's were a revolution (pun intended) compared to vinyl when they first came out, I mean who could ever have thought vinyl would ever be replaced or bettered? Perhaps with the exception of magnetic tape, I think its fair to say we all thought vinyl was here to stay > 78's (shellac) > 33 1⁄3 and > 45's.
Then increased capacity became the de facto standard in the digital age, giving rise to the CD, DVD and SSD's such as memory cards and solid state drives.
I wonder what what storage medium will be the next big thing?

It can’t get much smaller or efficient than lossless audio files on a usb stick

In thirty years time there won’t be much call for storage anymore- we won’t own much anymore, we’ll have accounts and stream music and video. Same will go for cars and all manner of things. The ownership model is changing already.

As far as the vinyl revival goes, I too was a DJ years ago, and all the DJs I know still doing it are glad to go to gigs with a small bag of cds and a usb stick instead of dragging a heavy box around, and done of these guys are real audiophiles. I can’t tell the difference between a very high res wav file and vinyl, even at high volume on a good sound system, although maybe that’s my ears.

I’m not saying the vinyl revival is a bad thing, I’m happy that people who do short runs of vinyl get paid instead of the big streaming services who are corporate nasties.

 

[maggot_dangler]

It can’t get much smaller or efficient than lossless audio files on a usb stick

In thirty years time there won’t be much call for storage anymore- we won’t own much anymore, we’ll have accounts and stream music and video. Same will go for cars and all manner of things. The ownership model is changing already.

As far as the vinyl revival goes, I too was a DJ years ago, and all the DJs I know still doing it are glad to go to gigs with a small bag of cds and a usb stick instead of dragging a heavy box around, and done of these guys are real audiophiles. I can’t tell the difference between a very high res wav file and vinyl, even at high volume on a good sound system, although maybe that’s my ears.

I’m not saying the vinyl revival is a bad thing, I’m happy that people who do short runs of vinyl get paid instead of the big streaming services who are corporate nasties.

Now that woiuld depend on what you call a lossless audio file mp3 nope m4a nope i only know of 2 lossless formats FLAC and wav closely followed by ogg .

PG ...

 

[sam vimes]

I can acknowledge that there can be a difference in sound between vinyl and cd. However, CD carries a wider spectrum of sound (once converted back to analogue) than the human ear can hear. The contentious bit is whether the inaudible part of the audio spectrum can interact with the audible part in some way and affect what the listener actually hears.

There could be something in keeping the reproduction of sound entirely in the analogue domain. Personally, I've heard vinyl sound absolutely astounding. I've also heard cd sound cold, clinical, "digital", and generally pretty grim. Much depends on the equipment being used. The big problem I found was that astounding vinyl reproduction invariably seemed to cost as much as a modest house. I found that I could get far better value for money with a well chosen CD based system. These days, I've been dragged kicking and screaming into the present. I still buy the odd cd, but they get spun once as I rip them (as FLAC files) to a network server.

 

[robtherake]

I can acknowledge that there can be a difference in sound between vinyl and cd. However, CD carries a wider spectrum of sound (once converted back to analogue) than the human ear can hear. The contentious bit is whether the inaudible part of the audio spectrum can interact with the audible part in some way and affect what the listener actually hears.

There could be something in keeping the reproduction of sound entirely in the analogue domain. Personally, I've heard vinyl sound absolutely astounding. I've also heard cd sound cold, clinical, "digital", and generally pretty grim. Much depends on the equipment being used. The big problem I found was that astounding vinyl reproduction invariably seemed to cost as much as a modest house. I found that I could get far better value for money with a well chosen CD based system. These days, I've been dragged kicking and screaming into the present. I still buy the odd cd, but they get spun once as I rip them (as FLAC files) to a network server.

Not necessarily so. With vinyl, physical isolation is everything. My reasonably modest set-up - a £600 deck/arm/MC cartridge with custom-built 2-box phono stage - beat the very bo!!ocks off every CD-based set-up I've ever heard. Silences (barring the usual ticks and clicks) were black, soundstaging was entirely natural, bass was subterranean but never overblown, timing and neutrality were impeccable and rhythmically it was astounding. The difference (aside from the phono stage, designed and built by a friend who designed amps for Musical Fidelity) was that the custom wall shelf was hung from six 12mm Rawlbolts on a solid wall with the crummy particle board shelves having been replaced with 1" granite slabs. The CD front end got the same isolation treatment but the improvement over standard shelving was far less marked. I assume that there was either less to reveal or the CD set-up was less vibration-sensitive; perhaps both of those things together.

 

[sam vimes]

Not necessarily so. With vinyl, physical isolation is everything. My reasonably modest set-up - a £600 deck/arm/MC cartridge with custom-built 2-box phono stage - beat the very bo!!ocks off every CD-based set-up I've ever heard. Silences (barring the usual ticks and clicks) were black, soundstaging was entirely natural, bass was subterranean but never overblown, timing and neutrality were impeccable and rhythmically it was astounding. The difference (aside from the phono stage, designed and built by a friend who designed amps for Musical Fidelity) was that the custom wall shelf was hung from six 12mm Rawlbolts on a solid wall with the crummy particle board shelves having been replaced with 1" granite slabs. The CD front end got the same isolation treatment but the improvement over standard shelving was far less marked. I assume that there was either less to reveal or the CD set-up was less vibration-sensitive; perhaps both of those things together.

Rob,
I can only go on my own experiences and cloth ears. Once upon a long ago, I really wanted to own a good turntable. (I had MF gear that included a reputedly decent phono stage. Still have MF gear now, though much is past its best and redundant). To equal or better my CD front end, I was auditioning turntable/cartridge combinations that were approaching five times or more than the value of my cd/dac. Before descending entirely into madness, I gave my head a shake. The best CD front ends I ever heard were always a fraction of the price of a comparable TT/Cart. If it genuinely wasn't what I'd found, I'd probably have a TT now. However, the new reality is that, though I have two hi-fi separate cd players, they very, very rarely get switched on. Even worse is the realisation that my hearing is not what it once was.

 

[robtherake]

Rob,
I can only go on my own experiences and cloth ears. Once upon a long ago, I really wanted to own a good turntable. (I had MF gear that included a reputedly decent phono stage. Still have MF gear now, though much is past its best and redundant). To equal or better my CD front end, I was auditioning turntable/cartridge combinations that were approaching five times or more than the value of my cd/dac. Before descending entirely into madness, I gave my head a shake. The best CD front ends I ever heard were always a fraction of the price of a comparable TT/Cart. If it genuinely wasn't what I'd found, I'd probably have a TT now. However, the new reality is that, though I have two hi-fi separate cd players, they very, very rarely get switched on. Even worse is the realisation that my hearing is not what it once was.

Fingers crossed, aside from a little tinnitus, my hearing's still good, but for how long... who knows? I'm betting that a properly-isolated vinyl set-up would have ended your flirtation with CD, though, back when there was less cloth in your ears.

 

[sam vimes]

Fingers crossed, aside from a little tinnitus, my hearing's still good, but for how long... who knows? I'm betting that a properly-isolated vinyl set-up would have ended your flirtation with CD, though, back when there was less cloth in your ears.

Mercifully, it's not a tone or across the board deafness, more a left/right balance thing. It pains me to have to adjust any controls, but needs must these days.

Is you MF mate still in the hi-fi game? I've got old MF Pre, Integrated and Power amps that could do with some TLC. I'd be at them myself with access to a decent workshop, circuit diagrams and list of component values. If only they'd have started going downhill a few years back!

 

[robtherake]

Mercifully, it's not a tone or across the board deafness, more a left/right balance thing. It pains me to have to adjust any controls, but needs must these days.

Is you MF mate still in the hi-fi game? I've got old MF Pre, Integrated and Power amps that could do with some TLC. I'd be at them myself with access to a decent workshop, circuit diagrams and list of component values. If only they'd have started going downhill a few years back!

I lost touch with Jez some years ago, which is a shame - he's a great bloke and brilliant at what he does. I have one of his pre-amps and an MF tube buffer stage that need attention if he ever resurfaces. He did have a cottage-industry business going for a while, but a web search shows it's now defunct. If I manage to make contact he'll probably be glad of the business, assuming it's still his stock in trade.

 

[laguna]

Pkt 12 Silicone Worm stops for 65p :thumbs:
Silicone WORM STOPS - prevent worms wriggling off barbless fishing hooks

 

[laguna]

This should keep ur pecker up for a bit..

Glycerine from Laguna (Limited stock/time offer)
One bottle automatically sent free with every order over £20 until end Jan 2018

New website: Glycerine 50ml

Old website: Glycerine (Glycerol), LAGUNA Fishing Products

 

[seth49]

Silvercrest Kitchen Tools Mini Chopper https://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/www_...deLocaleAttr=en&productId=9156&countryCode=GB

Picked on of these up in Lidl yesterday, just tried it out it holds about a pint, liquidised both bread and frozen sweetcorn perfectly.

Tried some two mm pellets it turned them in crumb and powder, just right for PVA bags etc, not bad for just under a tenner.

Also picked a cable tidy up in Homebase , will keep the rope for my weedrake nice and tidy.

 

[rich66]

Promo code from NGT in my inbox this morning runs from jan 1st for a week
10% off NGT2018

 

[103841]

Popped into Morrisons just to buy a paper, walked out with 24p worth of Polony.

 

[mikench]

I assume for the chub John! it freezes well and remains firm for the hook or hair rig! I get some from Asda!

 

[103841]

Yep, chub or the estate tench in a few months time.

 

[mikench]

A real bargain at 6p a pop!

 

[nottskev]

Silvercrest Kitchen Tools Mini Chopper https://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/www_...deLocaleAttr=en&productId=9156&countryCode=GB

Picked on of these up in Lidl yesterday, just tried it out it holds about a pint, liquidised both bread and frozen sweetcorn perfectly.

Tried some two mm pellets it turned them in crumb and powder, just right for PVA bags etc, not bad for just under a tenner.

.

Cheers! I just nipped into Lidl and picked one up. I already had one of their little electric coffee grinders for powdering pellets to make paste with, and that has lasted well. Keep your receipt, the girl on the till said - guaranteed for three years!

 

[mikench]

I have just done the same and in a deluded mood of optimism about fishing tomorrow, have just made some liccy bread and crushed pellets! It works well save that the lid you screw on before the motor is attached is fiddly to unscrew!